From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:43:28 -0700 Message-ID: <02A41F5567EF4E5DB94C5F00A6ED6F9B@us.oracle.com> References: <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu><87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com><4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de><76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com><87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk7z571u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><81674B067AF84670A2EDDB0178E0C0CC@us.oracle.com><877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><874oke4kor.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87pr32pd9j.fsf@catnip.gol.com><0726390D71674C4EB1561AF2D9527D66@us.oracle.com><87ocilfl02.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w9p9y8t.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87iq8tice9.fsf@mail.jurta.org><7B14780B0DA244AF8AB12E33886E24E6@us.oracle.com> <87iq8svmsa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268984764 28590 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2010 07:46:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:46:04 +0000 (UTC) To: "'David Kastrup'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 19 08:46:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsWu4-0000Z0-J7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:45:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsWu4-0002TK-1G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:45:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsWrw-0000IA-5E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54662 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsWru-0000GK-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsWrs-0002ZN-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:43:42 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:56954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsWrr-0002ZD-Kf; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2J7hbSn020847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:43:38 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2IBulUj016112; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:43:36 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 99487191268984608; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:43:28 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.179.75) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:43:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87iq8svmsa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Thread-Index: AcrHLw0PrRqpg9e+TsirfRJQUE2XWQAAXMcg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4BA32B28.0132:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122260 Archived-At: > > I agree with self-inserting characters replacing > > the active region _always_, no matter how it was activated. > > That's the point of "active". > > > And I hold that the region should be activated simply by setting the > > mark or exchanging the mark and point. > > With delete-selection-mode, commands like push-mark and pop-mark get > side effects that tend to destroy text every time. Care to elaborate? I use both `push-mark' and `pop-mark' all day long, and I've never had any text destroyed by either of them.