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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 21448@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21448: 25.0.50; `unicode-property-table-internal' in Elisp manual
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <029d2a95-ca25-48be-bf19-2159ed753d81@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83io7j5rye.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > 1. In node `Categories' you give an example that is incomprehensible, as
> > it uses function `unicode-property-table-internal', which is not
> > explained anywhere in the manual.  With just the doc string of that
> > function to go on, it is difficult, if not impossible, to understand the
> > example.
> 
> The doc string of unicode-property-table-internal says:

Yes, I read, and referred to, the doc string.

> What exactly is unclear about that?  That's an honest question: this
> sounds crystal clear to me.

The bug is about the example in the manual, not about the doc string.

As the bug report says, the doc string of `unicode-property-table-internal'
is not enough to understand the example.  Please explain the _example_,
in the manual.

> > There is a cross-reference to node `Bidirectional Display', but that
> > node, although quite long (and with large, verbose paragraphs) does not
> > seem to help with understanding the example.  It didn't help me, at
> > least.
> 
> That cross-reference is for those who don't know what is "strong
> right-to-left directionality".

It's fine to have that cross reference.  As the bug report says, it does
not do much to help you understand the _example_.

> > Please consider adding a little explanation of the example, including,
> > for instance, what table `uniprop-table' is being used for.
> 
> It is used as an argument to map-char-table, as should be clear from
> the example.  Once again, I don't see what should be explained about
> that.

Clearly, it is passed as argument to `map-char-table'.  That does not
explain the example.

> > Adding a docstring for the `defvar' would also help.
> 
> This text before the example:
> 
>      Here's an example of defining a new category for characters that
>      have strong right-to-left directionality
> 
> is all that can be said about that defvar.

What can be said about the example is to explain it.  If you don't
think a doc string would help with that, then fine.  I agree that
the defvar docstring would not explain how the example does what it
does.

> > 2. The example also not indented properly - see the second `let' binding
> 
> Fixed (someone left TABs in the Texinfo source, which is a no-no).
> 
> > 3. Please consider also adding to the description of each of the
> > functions described in this node the statement that TABLE defaults to
> > the current buffer's category table - as opposed to having this
> > statement only in the sentence preceding the individual function
> > descriptions.
> 
> I don't see why this should be an issue -- that sentence immediately
> precedes the description of the functions.

Just a suggestion.  It would be clearer, but it is not the point of
this report.  For that, see #1.





       reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<bb3f44a8-1141-4e3c-8694-26fe89e134e5@default>
     [not found] ` <<83io7j5rye.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-09 20:07   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-09-10  2:41     ` bug#21448: 25.0.50; `unicode-property-table-internal' in Elisp manual Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<029d2a95-ca25-48be-bf19-2159ed753d81@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83fv2n573m.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-10 15:27       ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 15:30         ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <<a7354d8a-de19-45f5-843c-792465d2a123@default>
     [not found]         ` <<831te65hcc.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-10 17:23           ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 17:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-09 14:57 Drew Adams
2015-09-09 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii

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