From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Ctrl-[ ? Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 15:51:07 +0900 Message-ID: <02425A86-E15D-41FB-A447-126CF4645A80@traduction-libre.org> References: <08AC8151-5911-40FA-8B20-818B839D00AB@traduction-libre.org> <86h892nk2g.fsf@zoho.eu> <9379C01B-80E3-49DD-B830-46CED773DC2C@traduction-libre.org> <83lfydrkde.fsf@gnu.org> <874l51q0s4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83ef45rdij.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhmto6fa.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190607163017.GA32029@tuxteam.de> <96B116FC-8007-4C42-9AE6-585530D0C76E@comcast.net> <87muisor2h.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190608084404.GB28228@tuxteam.de> <87h890ns41.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pnnonr15.fsf@gnu.org> <83muisnkw5.fsf@gnu.org> <838subcmc1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4885"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 09 08:51:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZrg8-00019l-Ez for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 08:51:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34126 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZrg7-0008LL-FU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 02:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZrfr-0008HI-Ld for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 02:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZrfp-0000TP-Px for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 02:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:55381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZrfo-0000I7-Ut for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 02:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pl32040.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [111.89.228.40]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2EC620000B for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2019 06:51:11 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <838subcmc1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.232 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120866 Archived-At: > On Jun 9, 2019, at 15:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> From: Jean-Christophe Helary = >> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 09:52:09 +0900 >>=20 >> But as far as "as unusual as the case in point", I have my left = fourth finger close to Ctrl, and my right fourth finger close to [ and = ], so what better combination could I think of when I need something = that goes to the left and then to the right ? >=20 > < and > come to mind. They are very near the [ and ] keys. And on > some/many keyboards you also have the arrow keys nearby. < and > require a Shift on my keyboard, arrows are used to change work = space. But yes, there are plenty of key pairs that can work, until one = finds that they can't :) On a side note, this is probably the most interesting thread I ever = started here :) Lots of stuff to learn and lots of stuff to do too. = Thank you all. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune