From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: That old GTK bug Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: <0204dc49-6004-1ce1-2846-a8154b29ffc2@yandex.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="169499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Per_Starb=c3=a4ck?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 11 16:16:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1if3jI-000huc-Et for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:16:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44028 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1if3jH-0001WG-6m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:16:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1if3iy-0001Rk-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:16:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1if3iw-00041y-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:16:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]:33788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1if3iw-00040r-FF; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:16:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id r21so9068416edq.0; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:16:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WU9Rn3eRC09kOonHNzCLo+6x+uKrKRT6Qg1EB4snfic=; b=hBwQxLliiHNOMYa6klsb9lcO0+naEygF4e0wxbhGYgltR7euaY4HKz7NyYe9PrDTjX COlLvCQaErbNj4I6DimTE8q+HOfMd0A4LH06QjXTNAdtpok74BN5KxpD8TYe40a/ueGm +e7O7OAV0bIU0cuMWRdJ2tAMnN88yHuaKVRxl0JGNxlCz+JC77lNNoSdMQ2YcxVZJncX i9/e7HahFVOUPJfKRIkyxkyrWY+dNMC0j8IFe+6DZs0hwhk19GTTl93iOqV+4IZVK0hU QHCxzqDdExSusrxO39NxRpMaCKau/CF/jA+/r/nQ24sz73wzT9q4rlf40Vop+kux62pW iMUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WU9Rn3eRC09kOonHNzCLo+6x+uKrKRT6Qg1EB4snfic=; b=pDjV6G2nZlGiVHnG/FGeLOQk5Bjkfdx4smmvqurami9a3lOLlEy3ezCHiT4ccD3j1W ga2hghuATVUYbXWtkl62iDjmjFpk0UjvIqofxgczFDeIZa3s7DYC52QvjzKwEIcusRG3 4+1zK3bvErTUcgpVvmAH1i2JCHq1b5sLNHfsVzQrIQbow9pnT6r9drM3OQcAc5RdsMQr IAueftNxIO0pM6nVUjM+FzBFLkM0Cvr+zZNz0KqEStW1dllTJ5dknZPiwWRtGSFFuQUf u3VrxWPbouagyUUXRfPF5PaTyFcWRa4jjY9G2eXRj2jRJKfqOwvh0sWm1Vv3UZwZyEgG YS6A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWBtj8XnYOTCOtfBiNsI7YWbsHGrnOUJFD8hTIu0V2Uu0JHdf6N nGmiPnYuYqWaUq6Sb9uLPzw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzE9oQidIde71cg4OTY+5DBNZ4sop2FYAPMnmOzqlRLgy/ElB2eVraCdMsNm1vw65PwfQ5pkA== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c5d2:: with SMTP id h18mr3779849eds.182.1576077380874; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:16:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.149] ([109.110.245.170]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f10sm47228eds.31.2019.12.11.07.16.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:16:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::52d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243302 Archived-At: On 11.12.2019 13:50, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > On December 11, 2019 12:17:33 PM GMT+02:00, "Per Starbäck" wrote: >> That old GTK bug about recovering from disconnects, >> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/221 , which has been a >> problem for Emacs users for years and years, was closed four months >> ago because it is "ridiculous". I don't know if that affects if and >> how Emacs should try to mitigate this further, but thought it could be >> interesting, and I don't think it has been mentioned here. > > Thanks for letting us know. > > I may be missing something, but I fail to see how such "closing" of a bug is significant, let alone useful for resolving the original issue. I think the last comment might also be implying that our problem could now be caused by the abort() call it mentions that we keep around for GTK 2 compatibility. (It's really not my area, so please disregard at will.)