From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:37:36 +0200 Message-ID: <01c52d06$Blat.v2.4$afb8ba60@zahav.net.il> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <874qf7zlk5.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87mzszxlc1.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111293630 6706 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 04:40:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 05:40:29 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCsEj-0001Dk-58 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:40:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCsVX-0000Hc-NE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCsVL-0000HC-N3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCsVJ-0000G3-E7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCsVI-0000FS-Ud for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCsEk-0006H1-RQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:40:27 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski (IGLD-84-228-241-130.inter.net.il [84.228.241.130]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id DYX64660 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:40:25 +0200 (IST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 22.0.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.4 In-reply-to: <87mzszxlc1.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> (message from Pascal Bourguignon on 20 Mar 2005 00:33:18 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25012 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25012 > From: Pascal Bourguignon > Date: 20 Mar 2005 00:33:18 +0100 > > "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > > > > From: Pascal Bourguignon > > > Date: 19 Mar 2005 16:45:30 +0100 > > > > > > 1- Probably, the theory of emacs key binding should be put in the tutorial. > > > > Please take another look at the tutorial--such an explanation is > > already there. > > I mean, how to customize the key binding. Then why did you write ``the theory of emacs key binding''? What's the ``theory'' thing about? > I find nothing about global-set-key, local-set-key or key maps. The tutorial intentionally does not explain customizations (it says so near the beginning). Personally, I think a tutorial shouldn't cover such advanced stuff, as long as it points to the manual that does. > More over there is the problem that key bindings may dynamically be > put in place by modes, in a non systematic way, so that in some mode > you have to study the whole mode sources to know how to change the > bindings... There's no need to read the sources, only to type "C-h m".