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From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Options menu
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:20:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c52c6d$Blat.v2.4$713e68a0@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <010e01c52c0d$ac93ede0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se)

> From: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:56:02 +0100
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Most applications I use on w32 have a "View" top menu.

This was considered when the menu bar was restructured in preparation
for Emacs 21.1.  The conclusion, IIRC, was that View is generally
inappropriate in a text editor, because it is not a program whose
purpose is to show you something, in which case View selects what
details you are being shown.

> My gut also tells me it is unlikely that we will have a "View" top menu now.
> However an "Appearance" sub menu with the same content will serve part of
> the same purpose and will propably IMO feel logical for most users.

If all Appearance does is be a parent for a few more-or-less unrelated
options, then we'd be better off without it.

When Emacs 21.1 was released, many users complained about the changed
menu-bar structure, even though the new structure was generally
better, certainly more standard-compliant, and had many useful
additions.  Still, they complained.  There's a lesson to be learned
here, IMHO: significant changes in the menu bar should only be done
for a very good reason.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-19 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-18  8:54 Options menu Kim F. Storm
2005-03-18 10:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-18 12:57   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-18 14:58   ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-18 22:56   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-19 10:20     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-03-19 11:24       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 15:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 15:55           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 15:51       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-19 16:51         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 17:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 18:18           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-20 12:59         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 16:26           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 16:58             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 17:31               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 17:43                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:06                   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21  1:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-21  1:19                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 19:31             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-20 20:49               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 20:45             ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-20 21:40               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 22:27               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-20 23:10                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21  0:02                   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21  1:26                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-22  3:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-21  1:41                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21  6:12                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-21 23:28                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 23:35                         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21 23:50                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-22  0:15                             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22  6:20                               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-22 20:44                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 22:37                             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 22:12             ` Miles Bader
2005-03-18 15:48 ` Drew Adams
2005-03-18 20:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-18 20:53     ` Drew Adams
2005-03-19 10:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19  3:08 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23  8:45 Baloff
2005-08-23  8:47 ` Sébastien Kirche
2005-08-24 16:58   ` Baloff
2005-08-25  0:40     ` Sean Sieger

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