From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-pretest-bug (Was: [bug] line move and truncation) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:06:10 +0200 Message-ID: <01c4cc20$Blat.v2.2.2$3e85ea80@zahav.net.il> References: <4199C0B8.40408@math.ku.dk> <419A09C9.3060308@math.ku.dk> <87hdnp22eb.fsf_-_@jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100639378 16794 80.91.229.6 (16 Nov 2004 21:09:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 22:09:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUAZv-0006iA-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:09:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUAih-0002VA-D8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:18:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUAiX-0002U2-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:18:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUAiW-0002Sd-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:18:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUAiW-0002SX-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:18:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUAZ3-0006Lf-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:08:37 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski ([80.230.147.231]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.5-GR) with ESMTP id DCU43546 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:08:31 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Juri Linkov X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.2.2 In-reply-to: <87hdnp22eb.fsf_-_@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:18:36 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29943 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29943 > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:18:36 +0200 > > > BTW, who is monitoring emacs-pretest-bug? > > This is a serious problem. It seems many Emacs developers are not > subscribed to emacs-pretest-bug. That might explain why some bugs > remain unfixed. And what prevents you from subscribing to emacs-pretest-bug? It's a public list, AFAIK. > So really emacs-pretest-bug looks like a part of emacs-devel > "hidden" from many Emacs developers. This hampers the development. > A good solution is to declare emacs-pretest-bug obsolete and to > change the value of `report-emacs-bug-pretest-address' to > "emacs-devel@gnu.org". No. emacs-devel is for _discussions_about_ Emacs development, while emacs-pretest-bug is for reporting bugs and related discussions, and only for that. Therefore, people who read emacs-pretest-bug should be those who are interested in working on fixing bugs, not simply have some interest in Emacs development. The fact that some people report bugs on emacs-devel IMHO means nothing except that those people wrote to the wrong address. But since all those who subscribe to emacs-pretest-bug also read emacs-devel, we don't usually tell such people to take the thread to emacs-pretest-bug.