From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:27:19 +0200 Message-ID: <01c4c564$Blat.v2.2.2$86748080@zahav.net.il> References: <01c4c3f3$Blat.v2.2.2$7e8aa060@zahav.net.il> <01c4c41c$Blat.v2.2.2$0fa338a0@zahav.net.il> <200411062248.iA6MmEm29919@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200411071855.iA7ItXw01981@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200411072345.iA7Nj7X04309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099899308 11801 80.91.229.6 (8 Nov 2004 07:35:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 07:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 08 08:34:46 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CR433-00046V-00 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:34:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CR4BO-0007tC-Jk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:43:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CR4B8-0007n0-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CR4B6-0007lT-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CR4B6-0007lA-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CR422-0000y9-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:33:42 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski ([80.230.149.108]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.3-GR) with ESMTP id DAY57123 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:32:56 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 2.2.2 In-reply-to: <200411072345.iA7Nj7X04309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:45:07 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29555 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29555 > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:45:07 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck > CC: schwab@suse.de, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > Kim Storm wrote: > > I made the change. > > So 'make bootstrap' now removes the .elc files. > > There is a new 'make bootfast' target that doesn't do this (identical to > the old 'make bootstrap'. > > I took another look at INSTALL.CVS and, after this change, we can > probably leave INSTALL.CVS unchanged. I don't think so. I think we should tell when the new bootfast target should be used. After all, it is there for a reason. Could Stefan, or someone else who uses the fast bootstrap, please tell how do they know when it is safe to use it? Is there some method besides trial-and-error? Here's something about "make bootfast" that I wonder whether it could cause trouble in specific situations: could the bootstrap-prepare and bootstrap-clean-before targets that run before it remove some files which will cause the rest of bootstrap fail in a way similar to what I saw?