emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

[David Combs]

Was looking at the NEWS for 21.3, and the top of that
file had some 3,500 lines of changes in "21.4".

And some changes they were!  Wow!

So, is this thing in alpha?  beta?  Testable?  or what?

Thanks!

David

Re: emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

[Stein A. Stromme]

[David Combs]

| Was looking at the NEWS for 21.3, and the top of that
| file had some 3,500 lines of changes in "21.4".

That may have been 21.3.50, from CVS?  

| So, is this thing in alpha?  beta?  Testable?  or what?

Not sure how it is classified, but it's quite robust and very useable.

SA
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Re: emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: 19 Aug 2004 18:49:18 -0400
> 
> Was looking at the NEWS for 21.3, and the top of that
> file had some 3,500 lines of changes in "21.4".

Where exactly did you get that 21.3's NEWS?

> So, is this thing in alpha?  beta?  Testable?  or what?

None of the above.  But soon, one hopes.

Re: emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

[David Combs]

In article <mailman.2106.1093013614.2011.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
>> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
>> Date: 19 Aug 2004 18:49:18 -0400
>> 
>> Was looking at the NEWS for 21.3, and the top of that
>> file had some 3,500 lines of changes in "21.4".
>
>Where exactly did you get that 21.3's NEWS?
>
>> So, is this thing in alpha?  beta?  Testable?  or what?
>
>None of the above.  But soon, one hopes.
>
>

Does this (via the precise dates) tell you anything useful?

  /big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3/etc:
  used 10950 available files

  drwxr-xr-x   6 dkc      other       3072 May 19 06:01 .
  drwxr-xr-x  23 dkc      other       1536 Aug 16 19:26 ..
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other         33 Sep 28  2000 .cvsignore
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       5278 Oct  3  1999 BABYL
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       4244 Oct  3  1999 CENSORSHIP
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       4968 Feb  4  2003 COOKIES
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      17992 Dec  3  2001 COPYING
  drwxr-xr-x   2 dkc      other        512 May 19 04:31 CVS
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      48508 May 19 04:31 ChangeLog
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      26712 Sep  1  2003 DEBUG
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       4933 Jun  3  2003 DISTRIB
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       3337 Aug 27  2002 ETAGS.EBNF
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other         92 Oct 16  2000 FTP
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      26870 Feb 13  2004 GNU
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       3727 Apr 20 11:03 HELLO
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      24748 Oct 20  1999 INTERVIEW
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      12091 Feb  4  2003 JOKES
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       3046 Feb  4  2003 LEDIT
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       7677 Feb  4  2003 LINUX-GNU
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       2199 Apr  4  2003 LPF
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      58717 Sep  1  2003 MACHINES
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      60586 Sep  1  2003 MAILINGLISTS
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other      61502 Sep  1  2003 MH-E-NEWS
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       8467 Jan  2  2004 MORE.STUFF
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       8793 May 13  2003 MOTIVATION
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other        838 Sep  1  2003 Makefile
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other     521977 May 19 04:31 NEWS
  -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other     272665 Sep  1  2003 ONEWS
  -rw-r--r



And here's the top of NEWS:


GNU Emacs NEWS -- history of user-visible changes.  2003-05-21
Copyright (C) 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
See the end for copying conditions.

Please send Emacs bug reports to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org.
For older news, see the file ONEWS
You can narrow news to the specific version by calling
`view-emacs-news' with a prefix argument or by typing C-u C-h C-n.

Temporary note:
 +++ indicates that the appropriate manual has already been updated.
 --- means no change in the manuals is called for.
When you add a new item, please add it without either +++ or ---
so we will look at it and add it to the manual.

\f
* Installation Changes in Emacs 21.4

---
** A Bulgarian translation of the Emacs Tutorial is available.

** You can build Emacs with Gtk+ widgets by specifying `--with-x-toolkit=gtk'
when you run configure.  This requires Gtk+ 2.0 or newer.  This port
provides a way to display multilingual text in menus (with some caveats).

---
** Emacs can now be built without sound support.

** The `emacsserver' program has been removed, replaced with elisp code.

---
** Emacs now supports new configure options `--program-prefix',
`--program-suffix' and `--program-transform-name' that affect the names of
installed programs.

---
** By default, Emacs now uses a setgid helper program to update game
scores.  The directory ${localstatedir}/games/emacs is the normal
place for game scores to be stored.  This may be controlled by the
configure option `--with-game-dir'.  The specific user that Emacs uses
to own the game scores is controlled by `--with-game-user'.  If access
to a game user is not available, then scores will be stored separately
in each user's home directory.

---
** Leim is now part of the Emacs distribution.
You no longer need to download a separate tarball in order to build
Emacs with Leim.

+++
** The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is now part of the distribution.

The ELisp reference manual in Info format is built as part of the
Emacs build procedure and installed together with the Emacs User
Manual.  A menu item was added to the menu bar that makes it easy
accessible (Help->More Manuals->Emacs Lisp Reference).

---
** The Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp manual is now part of
the distribution.

This manual is now part of the standard distribution and is installed,
together with the Emacs User Manual, into the Info directory.  A menu
item was added to the menu bar that makes it easy accessible
(Help->More Manuals->Introduction to Emacs Lisp).

** Support for Cygwin was added.




David

Re: emacs "21.4" (appears in 21.3's NEWS): available? When, where?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:00:34 +0000 (UTC)
> 
> Does this (via the precise dates) tell you anything useful?
> 
>   /big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3/etc:
>   used 10950 available files

I believe this is not Emacs 21.3, but some snapshot of the CVS tree
(which declares itself as version 21.3.50).