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From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
To: "emacs-devel@gnu.org discussions" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: OT: threats to Free Software (was: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:07:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0183F1F1-9B46-451B-A017-157329CECBCA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmxyqh8xd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> I think the real threat the FSF's ideals is that computers are being
> split into two camps:
> - cell-phones
> - web-services
> there are still some things in the middle (laptops/desktops) where users
> can run Free Software, but the tendency is pretty clear.

One may dislike the lack of freedom on a platform like the iPhone, but it is worthwhile to consider why the platform is successful (as in: popular).  Potential reasons: 

1. The applications are highly usable, reliable, polished and cheap.  The marketplace allows customers to read and publish reviews, and a ranking system to endorse interesting useful apps.  The review system put in place by Apple ensures that apps are relatively free of bugs, standards-compliant (UI and API standards) and usable.  When developers have their apps reviewed, theory even get free feedback.  Also, the middleware (Apple's CocoaTouch/iPhoneOS frameworks) are tested, reliable, well-documented, easy-to-use and there are easy-to-learn development/debug tools.

The middleware provided by the iPhone OS (and also by OS X) is so extensive and reliable that it competes well with the "bazaar" of free libraries and and other code.  Think NSSpellChecker vs. ispell/aspell, or CoreImage vs. ImageMagick/libpng/etc.

2. There is a working revenue model in place that gives application developers their deserved financial rewards.  Per-hour wages are around US$150 as far as I know.  Even developers who appreciate the ethical considerations of writing free and non-free software have to pay the mortgage, feed their kids, get a health plan (or they even want to enjoy life in their own Tesla sports car or their own aircraft).

There are further hardware-related and business-strategy related reasons, which may be less relevant for our agenda.  Perhaps there is something to be learned for free software from the above two points.  See also Lennart's point w.r.t libraries.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-02 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 18:53 Fwd: CEDET sync Lluís
2010-03-01 18:59 ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-01 19:36   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-01 21:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 22:07     ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2010-03-01 22:42     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2010-03-02  7:58       ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2010-03-02  8:51         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02  9:35           ` David Kastrup
2010-03-02  9:43             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-02 10:36               ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2010-03-02 10:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-02 11:08                   ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2010-03-02 21:03                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-03  3:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-05 13:45                         ` Michael Sperber
2010-03-05 17:07                           ` read syntax for window configs (was: CEDET sync) Drew Adams
2010-03-05 17:48                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-06 17:44                               ` read syntax for window configs Juri Linkov
2010-03-06 17:48                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-06 19:32                               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-18 16:07                             ` Michael Sperber
2010-03-18 16:41                               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-19 10:48                               ` martin rudalics
2010-03-19 11:09                                 ` Michael Sperber
2010-03-19 13:07                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-03-19 15:31                                     ` Michael Sperber
2010-03-02 11:13                   ` AW: Fwd: CEDET sync Richard Riley
2010-03-02 11:42                     ` David Kastrup
2010-03-02 15:23             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02 16:06               ` David Kastrup
2010-03-02 17:20                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02 17:58                   ` David Kastrup
2010-03-03  3:51                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02 18:40                   ` OT: threats to Free Software (was: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync) Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 19:33                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-02 22:07                     ` David Reitter [this message]
2010-03-03 22:48                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-03  4:00                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-03 22:48                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-03 10:37                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-03 10:37                   ` AW: Fwd: CEDET sync Richard Stallman
2010-03-03 18:37                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-03 19:00                       ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-05 20:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-06  4:29                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-06  7:45                           ` David Kastrup
2010-03-03  7:07               ` joakim
2010-03-02 15:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 15:59           ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2010-03-02 16:08             ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-02 16:44               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02 20:28                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-03  4:06                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-03  4:47                     ` Miles Bader
2010-03-03  7:21                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-03 15:45                         ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-03  7:41                     ` David Kastrup
2010-03-03  8:51                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-03  9:10                       ` tomas
2010-03-03 10:02                         ` David Kastrup
2010-03-03 16:51                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-02 18:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-03 10:38           ` Richard Stallman

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