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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: acm@muc.de, rudalics@gmx.at, rrandresf@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:39:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0137b83a-e3df-4981-5c82-dc071045b803@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831romceyb.fsf@gnu.org>

On 17.04.2020 18:25, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Monnier<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> Cc:dgutov@yandex.ru,acm@muc.de,rrandresf@gmail.com,
>>    emacs-devel@gnu.org,rms@gnu.org,rudalics@gmx.at
>> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 11:13:27 -0400
>>
>>> Like I said: redisplay itself calls those functions internally in many
>>> situations, and scroll-conservatively > 100 makes it use that much
>>> more.  When I said above "almost every command", I meant redisplay
>>> triggered after commands that move point.
>> But my understanding was that this part of the discussion was focused on
>> the distinction between "may run redisplay/jit-lock during the execution
>> of the command itself" vs "only runs jit-lock/redisplay once the command
>> itself is over".
> That was not my understanding, but if I misunderstood, apologies.

If the command does not simulate redisplay, and only redisplay itself 
does something (extra? special? I'm not sure), then I don't think I 
would apply.

Not according to the reasoning I outlined, at least.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-17 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 359+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22  3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08   ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23  2:51     ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38         ` rrandresf
2020-03-27  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28  2:48             ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  7:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28  9:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28  2:40           ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  9:21             ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28  9:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08                             ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38                                 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15                                     ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54                                   ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20                                     ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15                                   ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42                                     ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13                                       ` David Engster
2020-04-01  1:02                                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27                               ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04                               ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30  3:42               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31  2:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  2:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  2:32                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02  7:32                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03  2:52                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03  6:59                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04  8:54                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04  8:55                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  0:07                                           ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05  1:50                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05  8:46                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23                                             ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15                                               ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  4:03                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47                                   ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04  8:56                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05  8:44                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:05                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:16                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:20                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:27                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:42                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:25                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 15:04                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 17:42                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 19:45                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  2:09                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10  3:33                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 15:34                                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-16  1:43                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:12                                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-19 18:12                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 23:21                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 13:33                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 19:01                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:51                                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 21:58                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 20:06                                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 20:08                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 21:19                                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-21  1:41                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21  3:41                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16 13:52                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 19:22                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:05                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  6:17                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:10                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  6:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:02                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  7:10                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:40                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:22                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:06                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 15:16                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:36                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:38                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08  9:44                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:25                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 18:23                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:55                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:14                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:21                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:16                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:39                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 21:27                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 21:40                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:43                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 23:53                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07  3:17                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:06                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:16                                                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-04-05 19:19                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:28                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:57                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 20:48                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 12:43                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 13:39                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 13:55                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 14:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 17:16                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:26                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  2:29                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:45                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 13:59                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:45                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  0:32                                                                       ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09  7:46                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 13:19                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 18:37                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:16                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 19:30                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:46                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 21:50                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:13                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 12:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 13:34                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:34                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 17:23                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 17:46                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  4:44                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11 21:32                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  5:03                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16  2:04                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 18:25                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:47                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11  0:21                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11  7:55                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  2:51                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:01                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:20                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:28                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:08                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:33                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 22:17                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:47                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 13:00                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 13:38                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:29                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 14:41                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 15:36                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:55                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 15:56                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  3:07                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:10                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16  2:18                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16  5:22                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16 20:13                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17  6:11                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:04                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 17:35                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:52                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 18:48                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 17:09                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:17                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-19 18:51                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 23:22                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 14:23                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 15:36                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 16:42                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 16:51                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 16:56                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:02                                                                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-20 17:35                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:47                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 18:12                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:19                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:29                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:52                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 19:03                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:51                                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:09                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 21:50                                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 13:27                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22  3:14                                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 13:26                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23  2:37                                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 13:17                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 14:46                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  2:39                                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-20 18:27                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 17:42                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 19:06                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20  3:17                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:04                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:26                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20  3:27                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:16                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21  1:27                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 14:02                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  1:23                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-24  9:51                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  0:21                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 20:20                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17  6:18                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 15:13                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17 15:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 16:39                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-04-11 13:21                                                                         ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 17:04                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 17:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 21:13                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06  2:27                                                         ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 12:26                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  8:31                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 11:47                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 13:11                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 10:37                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 11:22                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:01                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:15                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 12:07                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:35                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 13:29                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 15:29                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 17:40                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 18:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 15:25                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 15:30                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 16:23                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 12:01                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05  8:45                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  3:49                                               ` Ravine Var
2020-04-06  9:05                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 19:20                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 22:53                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  3:12                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 11:16                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 14:10                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:43                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07  2:48                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:23                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:55                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 19:36                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06 22:12                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:41                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 14:17                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 12:14                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  2:49                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  2:29                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  3:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  3:10                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-09  6:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10  2:08                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-10  3:07                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  2:31                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-11  4:20                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 13:27                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 15:50                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  2:36                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 13:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07  8:32                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 12:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 14:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-11 15:13                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-04-08  2:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09  3:10                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 13:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03  2:54                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 20:08             ` andrés ramírez

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