From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:13:12 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <011201c48a06$469eb6e0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <001401c478de$908a92d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <1091508072.20683.201576204@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> <4111D8D4.1040506@runestig.com> <1091693906.8538.201741376@webmail.messagingengine.com> <001d01c47afa$c1f5f170$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <003e01c48946$a8ebfad0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093371282 7339 80.91.224.253 (24 Aug 2004 18:14:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 20:14:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BzfoK-0000dF-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:14:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzfsq-0004PT-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzfsk-0004OT-BW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzfsi-0004NF-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:18:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzfsh-0004NC-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:18:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.10.112] (helo=av5-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bzfnw-0002mB-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: by av5-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7C1DC37E4C; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.182]) by av5-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF3B37E47 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t1o58p136.telia.com [62.20.164.136]) by smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 794B837E44 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:13:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Emacs Devel" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26449 Thank you for all answers. I have decided to use "c:\program files" since this is standard and it seems like this is what most of you prefer. (Though I kind of like c:\GNU too.) > So the choice between those depends on how well it deals with upgrades. ... > I recommend to keep separate packages separate (and to kep the packages as > vanilla as possible), so if you put extra packages in Then I believe the comments above from Stefan are important. At least for me this kind of thinking use to turn out best in the long run. > On systems where the current copy of Emacs is not > necessarily in the path, invocation-directory is the first choice for > looking for gnuclient. I believe I write a small command file called emacs.cmd for calling gnuclientw.exe from the command file instead. This file can be put by the user in the path. I could try writing the file to some dir in the path but this might fail without privileges so I leave it to the user to place this in the path if no one has a better idea. > I'd recommend site-start.el instead. > > > Default.el is run after .emacs which means I can use customization without > > having to worry about the order in .emacs. > > Putting things in site-start.el makes it behave much more like all the rest > of the default Emacs settings: they are already set when the .emacs is > executed and won't be changed afterwards, so the user can "easily" change > them if she so wishes. I tend to disagree here but I may be misunderstanding something. As I have seen it the order of execution is 1) site-start.el 2) .emacs 3) default.el Emacs customization (i. e. custom-set-variables and custom-set-faces) are run in .emacs normally. This mean I can use the the customization if I load things from default.el. I can't do that from site-start.el. Or? - Lennart