From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17970: log-edit creates unwanted ChangeLog buffers Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:39:28 -0400 Message-ID: <00k37m32rj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <9u61j79ffg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2ded4c3.fsf@gnu.org> <16r41uh74g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8361j6cx9k.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1404941917 26843 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2014 21:38:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17970@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 09 23:38:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X4zZM-0003ci-TK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:38:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X4zZM-0008Qa-HT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uub-0003Dt-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uua-0003Bw-GX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uua-0003Bh-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uuZ-0002Ky-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:40:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17970 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17970-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17970.14049239838936 (code B ref 17970); Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17970) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2014 16:39:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uu9-0002Jw-IP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49121 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uu0-0002Je-VW for 17970@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X4uu0-0003r6-4r; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:39:28 -0400 X-Spook: NSA high security warfare BLU-114/B industrial espionage X-Ran: "5O%IUOa~tW+gO.5):87JcP&74X3)!6E_w}Y{Bc{ChO<_mS5r,<:$e$bqCHy{|{b@`SuV? X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <8361j6cx9k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:28:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91345 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> What benefit is there to vc-next-action creating empty ChangeLog buffers >> in such cases? > > To let me _create_ one. The point of this stuff is to prepopulate the vc log buffer with the relevant ChangeLog entries. If the ChangeLog does not exist, then obviously it is not going to find any. It does not show you the ChangeLog buffer that it creates or in any way notify you, so I do not see how this would help you in the scenario that you meant to write a ChangeLog entry but forgot, which I presume is what you were referring to. Could you give an example? >> (Then we need an ignore-file parser.) > > With one file name per line, I wouldn't call it a "parser", really. They contain wildcards, ! and ** patterns, etc. >> Why would you have an unversioned ChangeLog > > I didn't say I would. What I meant was that if ChangeLog is in the > ignore file, that's a sign that a non-existent ChangeLog file should > not be visited, since this repository doesn't want such files. Why would you ignore a file that it not expected to exist in your repo?