I was able to test this, to see the difference. The bug is indeed fixed - thanks. However, FWIW, the fonts used are less readable than in Emacs 22, so this is a slight regression. See the attached screenshots. Notice both the text in the tab bar and the text in the Info menu heading `Utilities'. Notice too that the tab-bar text seems to be cut off at the top: you cannot tell the `f' in "icicles-fn.el" from a `t'. You probably could not tell an `n' from an `h', and so on: ascenders are chopped. Dunno if anything can be done about this, but I hope the additional feedback might help. It's a shame to see Emacs look a little worse instead of better. Thx - Drew > From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:20 AM > > Thanks for your extra information. I think this is related > > to the fact that the Uniscribe font backend can only use > > opentype and truetype fonts, but Windows by default defines > > font substitutions for Helvetica and Times to map to the > > Truetype fonts "Arial" and "Times New Roman". So > > the uniscribe backend picks these substitutes up, but somehow > > things get confused so the Type-1 fonts end up being loaded. > > I've added some code to specifically reject these substitutes, > > which are detected by comparing the font's "full name" with > > the name used to load it. Unfortunately this also catches many > > legitimate fonts, so I've had to pick out these two specific > > problematic substitutions. If there are any other specific > > fonts that cause this problem, then we will need to add > > rules for them too. > > Thanks for fixing this, Jason. > > I don't understand all that you wrote, but I probably don't > need to. ;-) > > I think you're saying, along with the explanation of why, > that I should no longer see garbled text after your fix. I > might not see some particular fonts, but I will be able to > read the text in some font. If so, that's fine. > > BTW, I the extra info helped, then it's thanks to Miles's > list-fonts-display code. That enabled me to see the problem > wrt specific fonts. Perhaps something like his code should be > added to Emacs? (Dunno if there is already something that does that.) > > Thx.