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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Jason Rumney'" <jasonr@f2s.com>
Cc: 642@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com,
	642-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com,
	'Miles Bader' <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#642: 23.0.60; garbled text (wrong font?) in About GNU Emacs screen
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:50:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00fc01c95274$d8ebb620$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 

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I was able to test this, to see the difference.

The bug is indeed fixed - thanks.

However, FWIW, the fonts used are less readable than in Emacs 22, so this is a
slight regression. See the attached screenshots. Notice both the text in the tab
bar and the text in the Info menu heading `Utilities'. Notice too that the
tab-bar text seems to be cut off at the top: you cannot tell the `f' in
"icicles-fn.el" from a `t'. You probably could not tell an `n' from an `h', and
so on: ascenders are chopped.

Dunno if anything can be done about this, but I hope the additional feedback
might help. It's a shame to see Emacs look a little worse instead of better.

Thx - Drew

> From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:20 AM
> > Thanks for your extra information.  I think this is related 
> > to the fact that the Uniscribe font backend can only use
> > opentype and truetype fonts, but Windows by default defines
> > font substitutions for Helvetica and Times to map to the
> > Truetype fonts "Arial" and "Times New Roman". So 
> > the uniscribe backend picks these substitutes up, but somehow 
> > things get confused so the Type-1 fonts end up being loaded.
> > I've added some code to specifically reject these substitutes,
> > which are detected by comparing the font's "full name" with
> > the name used to load it. Unfortunately this also catches many
> > legitimate fonts, so I've had to pick out these two specific
> > problematic substitutions. If there are any other specific
> > fonts that cause this problem, then we will need to add 
> > rules for them too.
> 
> Thanks for fixing this, Jason.
> 
> I don't understand all that you wrote, but I probably don't 
> need to. ;-)
> 
> I think you're saying, along with the explanation of why, 
> that I should no longer see garbled text after your fix. I 
> might not see some particular fonts, but I will be able to 
> read the text in some font. If so, that's fine.
> 
> BTW, I the extra info helped, then it's thanks to Miles's 
> list-fonts-display code. That enabled me to see the problem 
> wrt specific fonts. Perhaps something like his code should be 
> added to Emacs? (Dunno if there is already something that does that.)
> 
> Thx. 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-29 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <49297533.3040505@f2s.com>
2008-07-22 23:34 ` bug#597: 23.0.60; Corrupted display ofv
2008-07-23  0:01   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-23  0:44     ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-07-23  7:53       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-23  8:01   ` Jason Rumney
2008-07-23 13:06     ` ofv
2008-11-23 15:30   ` bug#597: marked as done (23.0.60; Corrupted display.) Emacs bug Tracking System
2008-08-01 14:42 ` bug#639: 23.0.60; tab bars use bizarre characters now Drew Adams
2008-11-23 15:30   ` bug#639: marked as done (23.0.60; tab bars use bizarre characters now) Emacs bug Tracking System
2008-08-02 20:23 ` bug#642: 23.0.60; garbled text (wrong font?) in About GNU Emacs screen Drew Adams
2008-08-02 21:05   ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-02 21:27     ` Drew Adams
2008-08-05 13:58       ` Drew Adams
2008-10-29 21:14     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17  8:15       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-23 15:30   ` bug#642: marked as done (23.0.60; garbled text (wrong font?) in About GNU Emacs screen) Emacs bug Tracking System
2008-11-29 22:50 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-11-30  3:07   ` bug#642: 23.0.60; garbled text (wrong font?) in About GNU Emacs screen Jason Rumney
2008-12-22 21:30     ` Drew Adams
2008-08-02 20:50 Chong Yidong
2008-08-02 21:27 ` Drew Adams

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