From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <00e301c509c1$9c761690$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107416696 26277 80.91.229.2 (3 Feb 2005 07:44:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, abraham@dina.kvl.dk, rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 08:44:55 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwbfR-0001Nt-Ng for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:44:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cwbsi-0004rB-D3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwbsU-0004nQ-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cwbo6-00044N-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cwbo3-0003wo-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:53:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.114] (helo=av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CwbNS-00031v-0u; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:26:10 -0500 Original-Received: by av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 47BA437E4C; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:26:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.164]) by av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC937E44; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:26:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t2o58p169.telia.com [62.20.165.169]) by smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CAB637E51; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:26:06 +0100 (CET) Original-To: , , "Drew Adams" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32797 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32797 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Bader" > No, I think it's still bad: "Reset" is too strong a word -- it > doesn't make it clear that a save step will subsequently be required > (especially for users used to the old behavior). If there are other > bad uses, they should be changed too, of course. > > How about "Get standard values", and "Get saved values"? Here is a little table trying to show what we actually want to set names on: Set: Field => Current Save: Field => Current, Saved Reset: Current => Field Reset to Saved: Saved => Field, Current (only if Saved) Erase Customization: Standard => Field, Current, Saved In this context "Reset to Saved" and "Get Saved" actually seem to me to say too little instead. Maybe "Use Saved"?