From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: order of manuals in Info... Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:52:41 -0800 Message-ID: <00d601c98008$cbdea6b0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: <007501c97f79$14a0c260$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233012835 19055 80.91.229.12 (26 Jan 2009 23:33:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 27 00:35:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LRayt-00037t-B6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:35:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35153 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRaxb-0003V9-GU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:33:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRaK4-0002Xw-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRaK3-0002X3-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59166 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRaK3-0002Wl-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:51 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:18385) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRaJy-0003Sk-MH; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0QMq5Zn003647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:07 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt704.oracle.com (acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0QMqd1j023503; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:41 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:39 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmABw0e7XwqNaXkSC6f+rePyhSPJwAAEihQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.497E3EB9.0119:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108269 Archived-At: > > 1. What is the ordering scheme used in emacs -Q for the > > Info manuals? > > They are ordered by (loose) topics, with the "main" manuals first. No problem with that. But what are the "main" manuals, besides the five I mentioned: Info, Emacs, Emacs FAQ, Emacs Lisp Intro, and Elisp? > > If it's supposed to reflect general usefulness or popularity > > It isn't. Use the term "main-manualness" instead of "usefulness", if you prefer. The question was about the order of those manuals that follow the five main manuals I mentioned. What's the rationale? Is it "mainness"? If so, do you really think that, e.g., Newsticker is more of a "main" manual than Ediff? Do you think the current order is the best one? Is there room for improvement? > > Simplest would be alphabetical order - easy to find most entries. > > TAB-completion makes everything easy to find. That's irrelevant to picking a helpful order. That applies to any order at all. And what about question #2: shortening the long lines?