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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228912 Archived-At: ------DB7B9MRTVY082H43Q86EKFSVM8HW9U Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Eli=2E This is one of the reasons the proposed feedback is a good idea= =2E To identify different kinds of users and their needs=2E One of my prop= osed questions is about the server=2E Some people just dont like to have th= e server=2E So they care about startup=2E =E2=81=A3Sent from BlueMail =E2= =80=8B On 25 Aug 2018, 18:21, at 18:21, Eli Zaretskii wro= te: >> From: Radon Rosborough >> Date: Sat, 25 A= ug 2018 10:11:38 -0600 >> Cc: flexibeast@gmail=2Ecom, hw@adminart=2Enet, El= i Zaretskii >, >> emacs-devel >> = >> Why bother with the Emacs server when you can just make Emacs start >up= >> as fast as Vim? ;) > >Not sure if this is a serious question=2E But if= it is, then the answer >is clear: because keeping Emacs running at all tim= es means you keep >all the stuff that isn't saved to files, like buffers th= at don't visit >files (*scratch* being the most important one of them), var= ious >history variables, etc=2E ------DB7B9MRTVY082H43Q86EKFSVM8HW9U Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eli=2E

This is one of the reasons the proposed feedback is a good idea= =2E To identify different kinds of users and their needs=2E

<= div dir=3D"auto">One of my proposed questions is about the server=2E Some p= eople just dont like to have the server=2E So they care about startup=2E
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On 25 Aug 2018, at 18:21, Eli= Zaretskii <eliz@gnu= =2Eorg> wrote:
 From: Radon Rosborough <radon=2Eneon@gmail=2Ecom>
 Date: Sat, 25=
 Aug 2018 10:11:38 -0600
 Cc: flexibeast@gmail=2Ecom, hw@adminart=2Enet,=
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu=2Eorg>, 
  emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gn=
u=2Eorg>
 
 Why bother with the Emacs server when you can just mak=
e Emacs start up
 as fast as Vim? ;)

Not sure if thi=
s is a serious question=2E  But if it is, then the answer
is clear: beca=
use keeping Emacs running at all times means you keep
all the stuff that=
 isn't saved to files, like buffers that don't visit
files (*scratch* be=
ing the most important one of them), various
history variables, etc=2E
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