From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I wrote a mini manual for Emacs Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a2f060-2c73-452e-b330-a6f8c5fb8e6b@googlegroups.com> References: <539F334B.7080006@arlsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402974328 23668 80.91.229.3 (17 Jun 2014 03:05:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 03:05:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 17 05:05:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wwji3-0002vK-HM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 05:05:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47112 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wwji3-000207-1B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:05:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.58.41.33 with SMTP id c1mr2725803vel.2.1402974024839; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.60.7 with SMTP id d7mr548016igr.10.1402974024698; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!i13no3496320qae.1!news-out.google.com!a8ni3066qaq.1!nntp.google.com!a13no4964926igq.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.27.202; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.27.202 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 03:00:24 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206028 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98299 Archived-At: On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:07:12 AM UTC+5:30, Tu Do wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:11 AM, MBR wrote: > > Good work! > > I'd like to say something about the section ""I don't want a complicate= d > > 'editor', I want something simple like Notepad(++)" in which you talk a= bout > > IDEs. When I started using Emacs (after about 10 years of using vi), I > > immediately noticed that Emacs was very different from any other editor= I'd > > ever worked with. With all other editors, I'd use them for editing tex= t > > and do everything else from a shell prompt. > Well, I did in the section "Why Emacs?" at the beginning, emphasized that > Emacs is not a mere editor but a programming platform and has relation to > Lisp Machine. However, someone said that is not good for beginners to put > non-starter stuffs there. So I moved it to the appendix. I think thats a good choice. In my 20+ years of using emacs and convincing others (mostly unsuccessfully) to use it Ive found that showing emacs' power is usually a put-off more than an attraction. People say: =C2=ABLook I ONLY want to do "..."! Why all this "..." =C2=BB =E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF [Just to make GG behave itself!]