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From: Gene <gene.sullivan@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:41:57 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00997cf4-4577-49d4-b48d-79e6a46b0211@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4061.1542238084.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-5, Drew Adams wrote:
> To come back to the question about learning programming
> through Emacs and Emacs Lisp, I happened to reread this 
> RMS article today:
> 
> "EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor"
> This paper was written by Richard Stallman in 1981 and
> delivered in the ACM Conference on Text Processing.[1]

<snip>

> Educators have found display programming to be very suited for 
> children experimenting with programming, for just this reason (see LOGO).

`Display programming'?
Really?

Now we know why the venerable Richard Stallman's name was not listed as a co-author of Turtle Geometry.

ref: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Turtle+Geometry+(book)

I see no movement of either Scratch or Snap! to promote either the translation or re-presentaion of their pixel-based `display' 
 -- as in `display programming' --
 into `cell based' -- EG `text' -- `display programming'.

Yet emacs does support SVG, which, like logo, is a Vector-based form of `display' which most of us would call `graphics';
so it would seem that SVG *might* be used to represent the line segments produced by turtle graphics via Logo, Scratch, and Snap!.

ref: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=emacs+SVG

Through this search I just discovered the possibility of SVG graphics being inlined in org-mode files is some cases, depending on the OS emacs is running atop.

https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/17545/inline-svgs-in-org-mode

`Display Programming' ... humpf!

G




> 
> ----
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html
> [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC29



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-17 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-24 15:23 Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-24 16:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-24 22:24   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-24 23:30     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-25  3:31       ` Van L
2018-10-25 19:01     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 11:43       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-26 13:53         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 15:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 10:50           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-11-14 23:27     ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  3:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-15  4:47         ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  8:04         ` tomas
2018-11-15 20:01         ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4061.1542238084.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-17 15:41       ` Gene [this message]
2018-11-17 17:39         ` Java-mode Debug question ? Francis Belliveau
2018-11-17 17:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-18 12:34             ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-18 15:32               ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  1:06             ` Problem with CC mode hooks and font-locking Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  2:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-30 21:50                 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-12-01  7:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-01 14:33                     ` Francis Belliveau
2019-02-22  4:14         ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Van L
     [not found] ` <mailman.2668.1540396976.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-26 18:05   ` Gene
2018-10-27  0:54     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-27 17:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:27       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:16         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  2:47           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  7:04             ` Alan E. Davis
2018-10-28  7:28               ` Van L
2018-10-28 17:07               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2937.1540710329.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28 17:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28 17:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 19:30               ` Gene
2018-10-30 19:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-30 20:33                   ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3129.1540931601.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:20                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3123.1540928817.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 20:28                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 20:32                     ` Drew Adams
2018-10-31  2:14                     ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Nuno Silva
2018-10-31 11:23                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:33                         ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
2018-11-02  8:38                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-03 12:41                             ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-03 15:24                               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-04 21:25                                 ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-05 20:51                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:02                       ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:07                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:23                           ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.3128.1540931562.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:19                       ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Emanuel Berg
2018-10-31 14:22                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.3163.1540995758.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 16:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-09  9:16                             ` Van L
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3710.1541755025.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-10 17:02                               ` Gene
2018-11-04 12:17                         ` Daniel Nemenyi
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2929.1540689371.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28  2:11           ` Gene
2018-10-28  2:21             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2933.1540693317.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:35               ` Gene
2018-10-27 18:40     ` Gene
2018-10-27 19:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:52       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:11       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  0:19     ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2923.1540686004.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:22       ` Gene
2018-10-31  3:54         ` Van L
2018-10-31 10:42         ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3146.1540958071.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-02 19:34           ` Gene
2018-11-02 20:45             ` Gene

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