From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:12:47 +0900 Message-ID: <009101c8fa29$ffe80ce0$0100a8c0@yourhigxg9gyo4> References: <4897737C.90709@gmx.at> <86fxphgdw1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <489B441F.6070402@gmail.com> <489B5792.80504@gmail.com> <489B5CDC.3050902@gmail.com><489B634C.1040602@gmail.com><489B69B3.7000502@gmail.com><86ljz7eefb.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= , 641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218292148 27844 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2008 14:29:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:29:08 +0000 (UTC) To: "Eli Zaretskii" , <641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 16:29:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KRpS4-0002ms-Ka for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:29:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33532 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpR8-0002RI-O8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPu-0001ma-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPt-0001kn-4p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43991 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPs-0001kb-Gc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:32889) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRpPs-0003x6-5M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m79ERNcC004701; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:27:25 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m79EK7ro002085; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:20:07 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , don@donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:20:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 641 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 641-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B641.121829116732567 (code B ref 641); Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:20:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 641) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2008 14:12:47 +0000 Original-Received: from smtp.air.ocn.ne.jp (air.ocn.ne.jp [122.1.235.141]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m79EChKq032561 for <641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:12:44 -0700 Original-Received: from yourhigxg9gyo4 (p3140-ipad510marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [222.148.106.140]) by smtp.air.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id BD29230D8; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:12:42 +0900 (JST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:37 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19211 Archived-At: Do'nt send me mail !!! no tkank you!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Zaretskii" To: "Ted Zlatanov" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:16 AM Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work,starting with Emacs 22.2 >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:04:24 -0500 >> >> Closest I could find is this chart: >> >> http://unicode.org/cldr/data/diff/supplemental/windows_tzid.html > > Thanks. I knew about it, it's on my disk for quite some time. > >> We could at least provide this, and if the mapping fails we could print >> a message that it's an unknown string, and the user can submit a bug. >> %Z could show the full Windows-provided name, which IMHO is better than >> nothing. > > Sorry, but I object to partial solutions like this, since I don't > think providing just English names will satisfy most users. > > Perhaps someone could search the Windows files and find the > translations; they must be somewhere inside the Windows installation, > since the name of the time zone changes as soon as you modify a > certain option in the regional settings. > >> In addition, we can attempt to guess the right value based on the >> localized string and offset, e.g. Hebrew is probably Israel's time >> zone. > > Hebrew is an easy case, because the characters tell you unequivocally > what is the locale. Latin letters, for example, are much harder. > > > > >