From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Subject of closure notifications sent to submitters [Re:bug#119acknowledged by developer (Closing fixed bugs)] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:24:00 -0700 Message-ID: <008d01c8ccb9$7c83af00$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: <20080612161126.GL15070@volo.donarmstrong.com><008501c8ccac$1fffd400$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080612172751.GP17024@archimedes.ucr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213295220 21968 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2008 18:27:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:27:00 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Don Armstrong'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 12 20:27:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6rVp-0007j4-JX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:27:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39173 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6rV1-0002PX-SZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6rUY-0001zo-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:25:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6rUW-0001x5-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35075 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6rUV-0001wl-Pu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:25:43 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:64815) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6rUV-0002h0-M8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:25:43 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m5CIPUbd018461; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:25:31 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m5CF9cD6010271; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:25:30 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3692212571213295037; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:23:57 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:23:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20080612172751.GP17024@archimedes.ucr.edu> Thread-Index: AcjMsg1VW2PyC8D+RH2wFRLJ6Uy/hgABwi8A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99031 Archived-At: > > Well, what can I say? Such a subject line is useless to me. The only > > connection it shows with the bug I filed is the bug number, and that > > is not the most helpful for finding the thread of messages, > > including the original, that involve the bug. > > That's a message which is sent to a submitter, which is outside of the > thread of the discussion of the bug in most cases. Furthermore, the > message you got sent comes from using close, which is deprecated > because it doesn't provide enough information to the submitter to see > exactly why their bug was closed. [I'm most likely going to remove it > in the future anyway, so people whouldn't get used to using it now.] > > > FWIW, any bug tracking system I've ever used sends mails that keep > > the original bug title intact as the subject. Even when the original > > title does not accurately describe the bug, it is kept (along with > > the bug number) as the bug identifier, and that identifier is used > > in the Subject of all mails concerning the bug. > > That's because most bug tracking systems don't use mail for everything > that they do, and the only subject they have is the original message. > > > Also, please at least add a link in the mail body to the original > > bug report in a threaded list on a Web page. We should be able to > > just click a link in any mail regarding a particular bug to get to > > the complete thread. > > It's in the footer of all messages sent out by the BTS (or at last, > should be; if it's not, bounce me a complete example off list.) Much of what you wrote doesn't seem to be about the message that I spoke of, IIUC. For instance, there is no link in the footer of that message. Anyway, I guess you're saying that such messages will no longer be sent out (?) because you are deprecating "close" (whatever that is). If so, this discussion is presumably moot.