From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Subject of closure notifications sent to submitters [Re: bug#119acknowledged by developer (Closing fixed bugs)] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: <008501c8ccac$1fffd400$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: <4850FC42.7060305@gnu.org><000201c8978c$69739fe0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><006401c8cc9b$af57e770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080612161126.GL15070@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213289409 1217 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2008 16:50:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:50:09 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Don Armstrong'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 12 18:50:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6q0b-0002ms-DA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:50:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6pzn-0002oD-QW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6pzk-0002o8-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:49:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6pzj-0002nw-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42413 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6pzi-0002nt-Qt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:23635) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6pzi-00030s-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m5CGnaCZ016062; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:49:37 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m5CF5ZL5019559; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:49:36 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3692199651213289299; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:48:19 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:48:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20080612161126.GL15070@volo.donarmstrong.com> Thread-Index: AcjMqbNQOOYBPOVBQK6UbfdSSF/e7QAAXnAA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99022 Archived-At: > > Please add the original Subject to the Subject line. We shouldn't > > have to open the mail and search its body to find what bug #119 is > > (in this case, "modify-frame-parameters in Emacs 23 for fonts". > > > > The status "acknowledged by developer (Closing fixed bugs)" > > is not needed in the > > Subject line. What is needed is the original Subject. > > No, what is needed in the subject line is an informative message which > tells you why the bug has been closed. Using close with the control > interface should not be done unless you've already sent a mail to the > bug submitter explaining that their bug has been closed. > > The subject contains the subject of the message that actually caused > the bug to be closed, and explains what the message that it is sending > you is about, which it did. Well, what can I say? Such a subject line is useless to me. The only connection it shows with the bug I filed is the bug number, and that is not the most helpful for finding the thread of messages, including the original, that involve the bug. The status might be the most important thing to you, but to me, the most important thing to see in the Subject line is, well, the original subject. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about this one. FWIW, any bug tracking system I've ever used sends mails that keep the original bug title intact as the subject. Even when the original title does not accurately describe the bug, it is kept (along with the bug number) as the bug identifier, and that identifier is used in the Subject of all mails concerning the bug. Also, please at least add a link in the mail body to the original bug report in a threaded list on a Web page. We should be able to just click a link in any mail regarding a particular bug to get to the complete thread.