From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#673: 23.0.60; To source or not to source (from help) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:12:21 +0900 Message-ID: <008201c8fa29$f0f30280$0100a8c0@yourhigxg9gyo4> References: <489C1757.3060504@gmx.at> <489C2956.1030202@gmail.com> <489C3628.3000807@gmx.at> Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= , 673@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218292121 27783 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2008 14:28:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:28:41 +0000 (UTC) To: "martin rudalics" , <673@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 16:29:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KRpRZ-0002ae-T0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:29:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpQe-00027n-3W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPm-0001gF-QD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPk-0001eu-H6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43981 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRpPk-0001eq-84 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:32884) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRpPj-0003vG-UH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m79ERNc8004701; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:27:25 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m79EKHp8002745; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:20:17 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=AF?= =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A6=EF=BC=A9=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=A5=E3=80=80ZERO?= Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:20:17 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 673 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 673-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B673.121829114132492 (code B ref 673); Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:20:17 +0000 Original-Received: (at 673) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2008 14:12:21 +0000 Original-Received: from smtp.air.ocn.ne.jp (air.ocn.ne.jp [122.1.235.141]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m79ECIFs032486 for <673@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:12:19 -0700 Original-Received: from yourhigxg9gyo4 (p3140-ipad510marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [222.148.106.140]) by smtp.air.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id A5FD430C1; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:12:17 +0900 (JST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:27:28 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19209 Archived-At: Do'nt send me mail !!! no tkank you!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "martin rudalics" To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Cc: "Bug-Gnu-Emacs" ; <587@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: bug#673: 23.0.60; To source or not to source (from help) > > I use the normal > > > > make install INSTALL_DIR=... > > I never use that. Are the ".el" files copied as well in that case? > > >> In this case the following might > >> happen: As for C-h f `describe-function-1' will execute > >> > >> ;; See if lisp files are present where they where installed from. > >> (if (not (eq file-name 'C-source)) > >> (setq file-name (find-source-lisp-file file-name))) > >> > >> which sets `file-name' to the ".el" file from the checkout directory > >> (because you did compile it there) and installs the corresponding > >> reference in the hyperlink. > >> > >> As for C-h v `describe-variable' does _not_ care whether you compiled > >> in > >> another directory and simply goes to the file supplied by > >> `symbol-file'. > >> You could try inserting the snipped above in `describe-variable' > >> immediately before the line > >> > >> (if file-name > >> > >> and see whether it now jumps to the checkout directory instead. > > > > > > Yes, I guess that is correct. > > Did you verify it? > > >> Personally, I'd prefer something like the following in both cases: > >> > >> (unless (or (eq file-name 'C-source) > >> (file-exists-p file-name)) > >> (setq file-name (find-source-lisp-file file-name))) > > > > Thanks martin. I think a variable (or an option) for which elisp to go > > to would be the best. Is there any reason not to have that? > > We'd have to do something similar for definitions in the C-sources too. > Do I suppose correctly that the C-sources are not copied automatically > when you explicitly specify the install directory? I'm too lazy to look > into this ... > > martin > > > > > >