From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: by default, point should not enter the minibuffer prompt Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: <007501c928dd$97682c80$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223426070 24294 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2008 00:34:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:34:30 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 08 02:35:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KnN1T-0001WH-Id for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:35:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KnN0P-0004EP-QA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KnN0L-0004DR-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KnN0J-0004B9-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39839 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KnN0J-0004As-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:60075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KnN0I-0006xr-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m980YCuT021578 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:34:12 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt700.oracle.com (acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m980YA8i015165 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:34:12 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.57.24) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:34:10 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acko3ZbUgjLP5rL7RBGyiMZc76GwOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104405 Archived-At: How about making including `point-entered minibuffer-avoid-prompt' in the default value of `minibuffer-prompt-properties'? That is, turn on the check box `Don't Enter' by default. FWIW, I actually got an Icicles bug report about this (no relation with Icicles). It took me a while to figure out why I didn't see the problem in my own setup but did in Emacs -Q. It was because I had customized `minibuffer-prompt-properties'. Users shouldn't have to customize `minibuffer-prompt-properties' just to make `C-a' not enter the prompt, etc. BTW, I don't even see `minibuffer-avoid-prompt' in the Elisp manual, and there is nothing helpful about `minibuffer-prompt-properties' in the Emacs manual. That would be OK if the default value was good.