From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John ff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327331 Archived-At: ------7026IMEH8V27GPTBVYF2G1BOFHNLDX Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 An an =E2=81=A3=E2=80=8B On 24 Dec 2024, 09:23, at 09:23, Ihor Radchenko = wrote: >Samuel Wales write= s: > >> in some places, can emacs query the window and the data to determi= ne >> whether large font size [or possibly thought of as small window size]= >> is likely interfering with good information display? > >Do you mean the= situations like multi-column transient menus + line >wrapping? I am not su= re if there is a good universal way to address >such >situation other than = forcing a single column=2E=2E=2E > >> [NEXT LEVEL?:] can emacs automaticall= y dtrt in some cases, thus >> converting from "accessibility needed" into "= taking into account >> window size is normal in emacs"? > >What would be th= e right thing though? > >> incidentally, i will expand on my mouse-only-mod= e and kb-only-mode >> thing=2E for those who cannot lift their arms withou= t consequences, >> switching between mouse and kb is an issue=2E that make= s supporting >> both useful=2E > >Are there any specific places where you h= ave to mix mouse and keyboard? > >-- >Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, >Org mod= e maintainer, >Learn more about Org mode at =2E >Su= pport Org development at , >or support my= work at ------7026IMEH8V27GPTBVYF2G1BOFHNLDX Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On 24 Dec 2024, at 09:23, Ihor Radchenk= o <yantar92@p= osteo=2Enet> wrote:
Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail=2Ecom>=
 writes:

 in some  =
places, can emacs query the window and the data to determine
 whether la=
rge font size [or possibly thought of as small window size]
 is likely i=
nterfering with good information display?

Do you mean t=
he situations like multi-column transient menus + line
wrapping? I am no=
t sure if there is a good universal way to address such
situation other =
than forcing a single column=2E=2E=2E

 [NEXT LEVEL?:] can emacs automatically dtrt in some cas=
es, thus
 converting from "accessibility needed" into "taking into accou=
nt
 window size is normal in emacs"?

What would be t=
he right thing though?

 incidentally, i will expand on my mouse-only-mode and kb-only-mode
=
 thing=2E  for those who cannot lift their arms without consequences,
 s=
witching between mouse and kb is an issue=2E  that makes supporting
 bot=
h useful=2E

Are there any specific places where you hav=
e to mix mouse and keyboard?
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