From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMarkMode by default] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:55:25 -0800 Message-ID: <006c01c874aa$8f154fa0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de><006e01c8740e$366ebbd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com><20080221081923.GB1891@muc.de><002801c8746e$413695a0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203649893 13130 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 03:11:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 'Sascha Wilde' , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, 'Stefan Monnier' , storm@cua.dk, 'Alan Mackenzie' , 'Miles Bader' To: "'Andreas Schwab'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 04:11:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSOKI-0002b7-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:11:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSOJn-0000nx-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:11:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSEjR-0004cw-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSEjM-0004cJ-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSEjM-0004cB-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSEjE-000128-0x; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:57:00 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m1LGubYH003553; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:56:37 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m1LB6j5n016270; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:56:36 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3584739631203612927; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:55:27 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.81.25) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:55:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach0eRFKF9Q9o73SQkudtErnriF6uAAK9gIA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:01 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89918 Archived-At: > > 1. As soon as you have set mark at least once, there is a > > region. The region continues to exist for the rest of > > your Emacs session. It can be empty (point = mark), but > > it is never destroyed. > > You can remove the region by explicitly moving the mark marker to nil. Of course. In normal use, it remains - it remains if you don't use Lisp set it to nil. That's the point to get across - it is always there, even when invisible (inactive, in t-m mode).