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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, jasonspiro4@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:30:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005f01c93ecc$e83d1ee0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uy6zzt9vn.fsf@gnu.org>

> > > > Also, why have both `Tutorial' and
> > > > `Tutorial (choose language)'?
> > > 
> > > Because the former uses the locale's native language 
> > > automagically.
> > 
> > Then that should suffice.
> 
> No, because the locale's native language might in some rare cases be
> not what the user wants.

Menu items are not usually chosen with an eye to catering rare cases. I don't
see the need for the Help menu to cover both cases. Just pick one. I'd suggest
the more general one, where you are prompted for the language.

This is about choosing a language for a tutorial, not for casting a PhD thesis
in bronze. Either respect the user's default language setting or ask the user
which language to use. No need to confuse users by presenting both options.

> > > > Just `Tutorial' is enough, but it should ask for the language
> > > 
> > > That'd be annoying if all I want is to read the tutorial 
> > > in a language I understand best.
> > 
> > Why? You need answer the language question only once (if it 
> > saves the language, as I suggested).
> 
> Saving it is only useful if I will from now on want that version.  But
> that is not guaranteed.

It's not about guaranteeing 100% coverage or treating all corner cases. We're
talking about a set of menu items. I think either one of those items is
sufficient. But I won't argue this further.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-27 19:37 minor suggestions for splash screen Drew Adams
2007-01-30 10:38 ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Jason Spiro
2007-01-30 11:06   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial David Kastrup
2007-01-30 11:23     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-01-31 13:28       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-30 11:32     ` Jason Spiro
2007-01-31  4:00       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-31  8:18         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-30 20:26   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-30 20:49     ` Jason Spiro
2008-06-30 15:56     ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-07-06 21:57       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 22:21         ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:30           ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:33             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  7:02           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 21:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04  2:47         ` Please add a Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 18:15           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04 19:05             ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 19:42             ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 20:09               ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 20:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:03                       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:09                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 23:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-05  4:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 20:46                 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:37                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:34                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:44                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:25                 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 21:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:44                     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:30                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-11-04 22:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:10                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 23:56                       ` Davis Herring
2008-11-05  0:11                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-05  0:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 18:23           ` Please add a Drew Adams

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