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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, 23006@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:26:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00533907-878e-7f62-7b65-a4ba3318a8e9@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twjzn0ep.fsf@gmx.de>

On 03/21/2016 08:36 PM, Michael Albinus wrote:

> Yes, that would be a legitimate scenario to ask Tramp not to open a new
> connection. It's the first time somebody explained this, as far as I'm
> aware of, thanks!

My pleasure.

> So maybe we need two different flags for Tramp: One to suppress opening a
> new connection under any circumstances, and one flag to tell Tramp that
> we are in the file name completion business, and it shall open a new
> connection only it is safe (like seeing a slash in the local file name
> part). Remember my scenario about ediff'ing remote files; I *want* file
> name completion for the second file, even if there's no established
> connection yet.

Do you have any reason to expect that `non-essential' would be set to 
non-nil in that context?

 From your description, I see the reason for the connection to be 
established. It does not describe the slash-related caveats, and what 
would make you avoid establishing a connection, e.g. in the case of ediff.

>> Sure. I'm the author of this report. Still, it would be nice to have
>> `non-essential' have the intended effect.
>
> Still, it would be nice to have let-bound non-essential in order to get
> an effect.

It's not that simple. First of all, I came to this bug from a report by 
a company-mode user. And apparently we're getting the same error, 
through pcomplete-completion-at-point, from two different user 
interactions: one that should set `non-essential' (like Stefan 
suggested), that would be the "idle completion", and one that shouldn't 
set `non-essential', that would be manually initiated completion.

So setting `non-essential' in pcomplete-completion-at-point, or one of 
its callees, looks like a wrong solution to me.

But getting back to this bug report:

I've just typed `M-x pcomplete', which should be a good indicator that I 
probably want to be prompted for credentials, if required. 
`non-essential' should be nil in this scenario. And yet, I shouldn't see 
that error.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-14  2:01 bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14  2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14  7:34 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15  3:31   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-15  8:43     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15 11:09       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17  0:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:43         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 19:44           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 19:54             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 22:55               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-18  8:27                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 17:01                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 17:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 20:21                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:41                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19  8:28                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 12:35                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19 15:28                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 20:04                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:08                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:46                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 16:10                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 20:40                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 22:17                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 22:28                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 15:57                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:38                                       ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 15:54                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:59                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:31                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 20:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:53                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 21:05                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 22:19                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:49                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 19:26                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22  9:27                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:05                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:19                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:46                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 15:49                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:03                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:13                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:25                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:45                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:55                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 18:10                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 18:36                                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 21:26                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2016-03-22  9:47                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:05                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:20                                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:37                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50                                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 14:01                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24  1:00                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 19:23                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22  9:25                                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:08                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:18                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:35                                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:38                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50                                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-24  0:54                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 13:15                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24 13:54                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 15:56                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 16:38                                           ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 19:48                                             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 20:42                                               ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:51                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17  0:50   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:49     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-09 18:52 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-15 12:42 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-17 11:30   ` Dmitry Gutov

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