From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:43:26 -0700 Message-ID: <004e01c8a433$680933a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87bq781bf7.fsf@gmx.de> <000a01c8a314$5fff7630$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000d01c8a324$97820590$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000f01c8a334$b2a40660$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000101c8a37f$eeb543d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <480C4220.3030100@gnu.org> <000701c8a383$e545a890$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00af01c8a3fc$b2bac5d0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208839620 15047 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 04:47:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 06:47:35 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoAPa-0006Fl-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:47:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoAOn-0007wf-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoAOi-0007wI-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:46:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoAOZ-0007vo-LI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoAOZ-0007vl-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:46:19 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JoANw-0000VU-ME; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m3M4isb9004210; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:44:55 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m3L2bXfO026103; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:44:54 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3656321031208839407; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:43:27 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.72.40) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:43:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcikKjhJnHnVvzmJQGil8yQG632MEAABGX2Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95739 Archived-At: > > > > Whether I access a local Windows drive (even a slow one) or > > > > a Windows mapped network drive that happens to be in India, > > > > there is a world of difference. > > > > > > No one in their right minds will mount a drive half the > > > globe away via NFS or similar networking filesystem. > > > They will always use something like Tramp or ftp. So > > > this problem simply does not exist in practice. > > > > I didn't say anything about NFS or similar; I mentioned > > Windows mapped network drives. > > Same same. Note that I did say ``or similar networking filesystem''. So it makes no sense to map a Windows network drive to a remote UNIX file system with SMB. I learn something everyday. I'll start letting the others know. > > I don't know what your idea of "does not exist in practice" > > is, but I work for a fairly large corporation with developers > > and servers all over the planet, and that is how we work. > > Then you have very strange sysadmins, IMHO. Oracle has very strange sysadmins and engineers. They are not in their right minds. What they are doing simply does not exist in practice; they just don't know it. Thanks for setting me straight, at least. > > However, accessing a mapped network drive is typically > > much slower than accessing a local hard drive (please - > > no comments about USB sticks). > > That is simply not true in general, even before situations like USB > sticks are concerned. Of course, if you are in the US and the drive > is in Asia, that could be true, but that is a very unusual situation. According to the network engineers I spoke with today, it is true in general. It's about the network properties (software and hardware), not necessarily the distance. It makes sense to me, but I'm no networking expert. You win.