From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:07:18 -0700 Message-ID: <004301c88e46$dd4cc530$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de><87zlsouef7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206429036 13724 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 07:10:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, acm@muc.de, 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 08:11:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Je3JG-00051m-Tq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:11:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je3If-0008Rh-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:10:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je3Ib-0008Rc-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je3Ia-0008RL-37 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je3IZ-0008RI-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:10:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Je3IV-00048M-Ka; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:10:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Je3He-0006d8-2b; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:09:22 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m2P79BkU031765; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:09:12 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m2P79ACx028704; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:09:10 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3622298011206428838; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:07:18 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.72.71) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:07:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AciOLgvwkOdB0Bz6SQ6Szu9rWQ9pWgAF2m4w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93391 Archived-At: > > [TMM] is a total pain in the neck unless > > mark-even-if-inactive is t. > > It *is* t. Really? That's not what I see with emacs -Q. And then turning on TMM doesn't make it t either. BTW, I should have mentioned that my vote for TMM as default comes with non-nil mark-even-if-inactive default also. (And without any automatic activation via Shift.)