From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: basic using icicels Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: <004101c90d1b$7caf2160$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <86652b00-63b5-4ac6-b0ae-5b4ab34d440f@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220375659 29442 80.91.229.12 (2 Sep 2008 17:14:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:14:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "'tomer'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 02 19:15:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KaZTD-0005I7-Qw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:15:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KaZSE-0004C8-Jg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KaZ1d-0003Td-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KaZ1a-0003R3-L9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59887 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KaZ1a-0003Qx-8b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:10062) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KaZ1Y-0005km-T8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m82GkWcH030845; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:46:33 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt703.oracle.com (acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m82GkWce020132; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:46:32 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.81.160) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:46:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckNAeZ/uqqhks+lRB6oM5dB8l2y9QAFzDpA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57190 Archived-At: > > > Is it possible to complete zero length string with icicles > > > in other words , is it possible to have in the completion=20 > > > buffer ALL the words avaialbe in ALL buffers and from there > > > starting filtering ? > > > > Not sure what you mean, exactly. > > But yes, if you type nothing in the minibuffer when it asks=20 > > for completion input, and you then hit TAB or S-TAB, you > > should get all available completion candidates. This is a > > common action - it's how you see all possible candidates. > > If you type something, then what you type filters the=20 > > possible candidates; otherwise, you see them all. > > > > However, I don't know what you mean by the last part: "ALL=20 > > the words available in ALL buffers". =A0Minibuffer completion > > is available for lots of different kinds of object (buffer > > name, file name, function name, search hit,...). What is the > > context here? What command are you using? > > > > It sounds like you want to complete a word (in a buffer=20 > > other than the minibuffer), using the words that are present > > in all buffers as candidates. Is that correct? Are you > > referring to `C-M-/', which (in Icicle mode) is > > `icicle-dabbrev-completion'? If so, use `C-h k C-M-/' to see > > the description of this command. In that description, you see > > that `C-u C-u C-M-/' uses all words > > from all buffers as candidates. (`C-h k' is your friend.) >=20 > Thanks for the detailed answer. > first off all, thanks for this amazing extention. > it is dream come true . >=20 > you are correct for my intention but i didnt understand the solution. >=20 > i want to use dabbrev of icicle and also to see ALL words in ALL > buffers in the completion list.=20 > the use for this is obvious , suppose i do remeber only the middle of > word that exist in other buffer. >=20 > in my current situation i dont know how to "tell" icicle to show all > words in all buffers without a prefix. >=20 > if i use icicle-dabbrev-completion with no prefix i get the message " > no dynamic exit" > the same message occur with c-u c-u icicle-dabbrev-completion. I understand now. The Icicles version of `C-M-/', like the vanilla Emacs version, required you to have a non-empty prefix as a starting point, = even though you could then use apropos (e.g. substring) completion to choose = among the candidate completions. I've changed this to accommodate your expectation, which was reasonable. = You can now complete immediately even from an empty string (e.g. at the = beginning of a buffer). Try the latest version. HTH.