From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2051: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:08:46 -0800 Message-ID: <003d01c97f17$f77bf080$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 2051@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232907828 2496 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2009 18:23:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:23:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 19:25:02 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LR9fI-0006hi-Bm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:25:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40122 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LR9e0-0006WY-CZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LR9dv-0006Vg-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LR9dt-0006Uw-N5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33500 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LR9ds-0006Ue-SS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:53146) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LR9ds-00005K-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PINTYk008074; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:23:29 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0PIF37I005733; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:15:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2051 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12329069264440 (code B ref -1); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 18:08:46 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PI8g04004434 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:08:44 -0800 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54923) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LR9Nz-0008Ie-0d for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LR9PQ-0007DW-J0 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:08:37 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com ([148.87.113.125]:56530 helo=rgminet13.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LR9PQ-0007DM-8y for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0PI9N80018015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:09:25 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0PI8VDd001649 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:08:32 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.128.33) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:08:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acl/F/berhbfgosrSAGq7bBjkNODzA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010203.497CAA9F.0107:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:34 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24513 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23761 Archived-At: On MS Windows, a mouseover on the taskbar group for an Emacs session shows this tooltip: "GNU Emacs for Windows NT/95/98/2000/ME/XP" I don't use Vista, but I assume Emacs runs on Vista also. And it will run on Windows 7 or whatever new comes along. I'd recommend removing all of the version info and just using something like this: "GNU Emacs for MS Windows" Note the addition of "MS" (or perhaps "Microsoft"), to avoid confusion with other meanings of "windows". Or perhaps just "GNU Emacs" would be best. It's obviously running on Windows, and Emacs on Windows is not a different product from Emacs generally. In particular, the "for" in "GNU Emacs for Windows" makes it sound like this is some separate product designed specially _for_ (if not by) Microsoft, even without the "MS" - kinda like "Michelin tires for Costco". And that's far from being the case - this Emacs was not made for Microsoft (or for MS Windows); it just runs (also) on MS Windows. I don't see any other applications putting "for Windows" in their tooltips. GNU should be the last to do that. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-01-04 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping'