From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: BJM: Fan mail from some flounder? RJS: No, this is what I really call a message... Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:49:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003601c8db4e$f3b3fb90$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8DB14.47552390" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214898602 20842 80.91.229.12 (1 Jul 2008 07:50:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 07:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Glenn Morris' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Emacs bug Tracking System'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 01 09:50:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KDadR-0006UR-Hs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:50:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDaca-00044g-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDacV-00044Q-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDacU-000444-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37687 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDacU-000441-0O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:32695) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KDacK-0003q5-PU; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m617nFtG000813; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 02:49:16 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m617Kvok004308; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:49:15 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3701583401214898553; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:49:13 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.93.176) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:49:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjbTvMIEPZRkm+1QXyShL264+8Kwg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100260 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, but I cannot fathom this. I came across these three messages, floating in a sea of others that look similar. Two of them say that I should expect "a substantive response shortly" from Glenn. The third refers cryptically to bugs #398 and #239 (but also to other, unrelated bugs), telling me that "'close' is deprecated" and (euphemistically? ;-)) inviting me to send any further explanations to myself. AFAICT, I've received nothing so far from Glenn about these bugs, but perhaps that will come and perhaps I will recognize it when it does come. I receive many such mails, most of which, though titled (only) "Processed: your mail", have nothing to do with bugs that I reported. It's very difficult to try to fish out of this general mail soup any flotsam that might actually be relevant to bugs that I've filed. I've said before that this bug email interface is a mess, so far at least, and so far as I am concerned as a user. The response to that feedback was a condescending explanation that (1) the bug tracker is for bug maintainers anyway, not users, and (2) users should just change mail clients or fix their clients to handle such messages better. Unfortunately, I must inform you that my response will be to (1) continue to help by submitting bug reports, but (2) continue to use the same (very common) mail client, and (3) undoubtedly miss most followup correspondance about the reports I have submitted. I cannot afford the time to try to decipher what might be going on. HTH. http://www.evanmorris.com/fanmailflounder.wav http://www.word-detective.com/052206A.html ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDULF-0004YQ-8v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDULG-0004Z4-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:34 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48659 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDULK-0004Ze-5P for drew.adams@oracle.com; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40251 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDULF-0004YM-44 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:33 -0400 Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m611579D001810; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:07 -0700 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6117CbO002760; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:12 -0700 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:59756) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KDULA-0004DG-WF; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:29 -0400 Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com by acsmt358.oracle.com with ESMTP id 10545566361214874513; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:08:33 -0500 Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (/141.146.46.1) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:33 -0700 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rgminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m6117chk000381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:31 -0600 Received: from rgminet03.oracle.com (rgminet03.oracle.com [148.87.113.120]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m6118VoY010186 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:32 -0600 Return-Path: From: "Emacs bug Tracking System" Sender: To: "Glenn Morris" Cc: "#239 #387 #398 #405" , "Emacs Bugs" References: <18537.33001.831109.48725@fencepost.gnu.org> Subject: Processed: your mail Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8DB14.475068A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjbFvsvRNxwlQdfT7mHZsngiWgc6A== List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Subscribe: , In-Reply-To: <18537.33001.831109.48725@fencepost.gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8DB14.475068A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Processing commands for control@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com: > close 239 bug#239: 23.0.60; \ is considered whitespace syntax in Lisp mode? 'close' is deprecated; see http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing. bug closed, send any further explanations to "Drew Adams" > tags 253 moreinfo bug#253: inhibit-startup-message bug in 22.2.1 There were no tags set. Tags added: moreinfo > severity 267 wishlist bug#267: dired-do-query-replace-regex replace ALL Severity set to `wishlist' from `normal' > tags 284 unreproducible bug#284: Trunk CVS emacs: Stack overflow in equal There were no tags set. Tags added: unreproducible > owner 341 Alan Mackenzie bug#341: c-indent-command misindents? Owner recorded as Alan Mackenzie . > owner 343 Alan Mackenzie bug#343: C mode asks twice about local variables bug#347: C mode asks twice about local variables Owner recorded as Alan Mackenzie . > merge 364 365 bug#364: rmail-set-attribute bug#365: rmail mode Merged 364 365. > tags 366 moreinfo bug#366: Problem executing emacs There were no tags set. Tags added: moreinfo > severity 385 minor bug#385: [PATCH] comment-indent doesn't respect comment-indent-function Severity set to `minor' from `normal' > close 387 bug#387: Processed (with 4 errors): as 'close' is deprecated; see http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing. bug closed, send any further explanations to rms@gnu.org > tags 390 unreproducible moreinfo bug#390: 23.0.60; killed buffer in list from function buffer-list? There were no tags set. Tags added: unreproducible, moreinfo > tags 393 unreproducible moreinfo bug#393: Compiled emacs fails to run There were no tags set. Tags added: unreproducible, moreinfo > close 398 bug#398: 23.0.60; M-x customize-option Info-hide TAB not recognized 'close' is deprecated; see http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing. bug closed, send any further explanations to "Drew Adams" > close 405 bug#405: Emacs 22.2.1 in X behaves improperly when run with low memory limits 'close' is deprecated; see http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing. bug closed, send any further explanations to Kwang Ketcham > tags 443 moreinfo bug#443: [Fwd: emacs installation - segmentation fault during unexec] There were no tags set. Tags added: moreinfo > End of message, stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Don Armstrong (administrator, Emacs bugs database) ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8DB14.475068A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Processed: your mail

Processing commands for = control@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com:

> close 239
bug#239: 23.0.60; \ is considered whitespace syntax = in Lisp mode?
'close' is deprecated; see http://= emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing.
bug closed, send any further explanations to = "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>

> tags 253 moreinfo
bug#253: inhibit-startup-message bug in 22.2.1
There were no tags set.
Tags added: moreinfo

> severity 267 wishlist
bug#267: dired-do-query-replace-regex replace = ALL
Severity set to `wishlist' from `normal'

> tags 284 unreproducible
bug#284: Trunk CVS emacs: Stack overflow in = equal
There were no tags set.
Tags added: unreproducible

> owner 341 Alan Mackenzie = <acm@muc.de>
bug#341: c-indent-command misindents?
Owner recorded as Alan Mackenzie = <acm@muc.de>.

> owner 343 Alan Mackenzie = <acm@muc.de>
bug#343: C mode asks twice about local = variables
bug#347: C mode asks twice about local = variables
Owner recorded as Alan Mackenzie = <acm@muc.de>.

> merge 364 365
bug#364: rmail-set-attribute
bug#365: rmail mode
Merged 364 365.

> tags 366 moreinfo
bug#366: Problem executing emacs
There were no tags set.
Tags added: moreinfo

> severity 385 minor
bug#385: [PATCH] comment-indent doesn't respect = comment-indent-function
Severity set to `minor' from `normal'

> close 387
bug#387: Processed (with 4 errors): as
'close' is deprecated; see http://= emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing.
bug closed, send any further explanations to = rms@gnu.org

> tags 390 unreproducible moreinfo
bug#390: 23.0.60; killed buffer in list from function = buffer-list?
There were no tags set.
Tags added: unreproducible, moreinfo

> tags 393 unreproducible moreinfo
bug#393: Compiled emacs fails to run
There were no tags set.
Tags added: unreproducible, moreinfo

> close 398
bug#398: 23.0.60; M-x customize-option Info-hide TAB = not recognized
'close' is deprecated; see http://= emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing.
bug closed, send any further explanations to = "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>

> close 405
bug#405: Emacs 22.2.1 in X behaves improperly when = run with low memory limits
'close' is deprecated; see http://= emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Developer.html#closing.
bug closed, send any further explanations to Kwang = Ketcham <kketcham@cs.hmc.edu>

> tags 443 moreinfo
bug#443: [Fwd: emacs installation - segmentation = fault during unexec]
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Tags added: moreinfo

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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8DB14.475068A0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Received: from rgminet03.oracle.com (rgminet03.oracle.com [148.87.113.120]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m61187Nr026702 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:07 -0600 Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 10544508311214874488; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:08 -0700 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [138.23.92.77]) by rgminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m6117C8K032245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:05 -0600 Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m61157xK001772 for "Drew Adams" ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:07 -0700 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6117CbK002760 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:12 -0700 Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (/141.146.46.1) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:30 -0700 Return-Path: Reply-To: <398@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> From: "Emacs bug Tracking System" To: "Drew Adams" References: <18537.33001.831109.48725@fencepost.gnu.org> <007e01c8cca8$71bbe350$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Subject: bug#398 acknowledged by developer () Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C8DB14.47552390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjbFvll4yi0lMHdR1qlvT0d4mfrBg== In-Reply-To: <007e01c8cca8$71bbe350$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report #398: 23.0.60; M-x customize-option Info-hide TAB not recognized, which was filed against the emacs package. It has been marked as closed by one of the developers, namely Glenn Morris . You should be hearing from them with a substantive response shortly, in case you haven't already. If not, please contact them directly. Don Armstrong (administrator, Emacs bugs database) ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bug#398 acknowledged by developer ()

This is an automatic notification regarding your bug = report
#398: 23.0.60; M-x customize-option Info-hide TAB not = recognized,
which was filed against the emacs package.

It has been marked as closed by one of the developers, = namely
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>.

You should be hearing from them with a substantive = response shortly,
in case you haven't already. If not, please contact = them directly.

Don Armstrong
(administrator, Emacs bugs database)

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C8DB14.47552390-- ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Received: from rgminet03.oracle.com (rgminet03.oracle.com [148.87.113.120]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m61187hl026585 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:07 -0600 Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com by acsmt358.oracle.com with ESMTP id 10545566071214874488; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:08:08 -0500 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [138.23.92.77]) by rgminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m6117CRM032244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:05 -0600 Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m61156se001719 for "Drew Adams" ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:06 -0700 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6117CbI002760 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:12 -0700 Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (/141.146.46.1) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:08:28 -0700 Return-Path: Reply-To: <239@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> From: "Emacs bug Tracking System" To: "Drew Adams" References: <18537.33001.831109.48725@fencepost.gnu.org> <004a01c8b573$4f9c29c0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Subject: bug#239 acknowledged by developer () Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C8DB14.47552390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjbFvg0HAO4kP2AT0qSimgo8LwyMQ== In-Reply-To: <004a01c8b573$4f9c29c0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report #239: 23.0.60; \ is considered whitespace syntax in Lisp mode?, which was filed against the emacs package. It has been marked as closed by one of the developers, namely Glenn Morris . You should be hearing from them with a substantive response shortly, in case you haven't already. If not, please contact them directly. Don Armstrong (administrator, Emacs bugs database) ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C8DB14.47552390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bug#239 acknowledged by developer ()

This is an automatic notification regarding your bug = report
#239: 23.0.60; \ is considered whitespace syntax in = Lisp mode?,
which was filed against the emacs package.

It has been marked as closed by one of the developers, = namely
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>.

You should be hearing from them with a substantive = response shortly,
in case you haven't already. If not, please contact = them directly.

Don Armstrong
(administrator, Emacs bugs database)

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