From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:52:15 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <003101c48b8d$16926900$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> References: <001401c478de$908a92d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <1091508072.20683.201576204@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> <4111D8D4.1040506@runestig.com> <1091693906.8538.201741376@webmail.messagingengine.com> <001d01c47afa$c1f5f170$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <003e01c48946$a8ebfad0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <011201c48a06$469eb6e0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <016f01c48a10$f6081090$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <412E070F.9030002@ig.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093540060 5472 80.91.224.253 (26 Aug 2004 17:07:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 19:07:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C0NU3-00014p-00 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:52:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0NYf-0006Fg-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0NYY-0006FY-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0NYY-0006Ev-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0NYY-0006En-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.115] (helo=av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0NTc-0004C4-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A508437E97; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.164]) by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9048F37E44; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sedrcw11488 (t2o58p37.telia.com [62.20.165.37]) by smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FA5C37E49; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:51:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Vinicius Jose Latorre" , "Emacs Devel" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26525 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26525 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Jose Latorre" > > >> 2) Some windows specific printing entries to the menus since printing > > >> otherwise tends to be a problem when you start with Emacs on ms > windows. I > > >> also remove the unix-related printing entries from the menus > because they do > > >> not work or do not work as you expect them to. Of course I make > this as > > >> customization options. > > What kind of problems? > > The printing entries in the menu are not unix-related, it should work > also on Windows. I am sorry, but I do not understand. We must be misunderstanding each other here. If I just install a vanilla Emacs on ms windows and try "File - Print Buffer" on the menus I get something like this: Loading lpr...done Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)... direct-print-region-helper: IO error writing c:/PRN: Bad file descriptor I get similar results if I use "File - PostScript Print Buffer". I guess this is the reason there are so many advices on printing in the "GNU Emacs FAQ For Windows 95/98/ME/NT/XP and 2000" (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/big.html#printing-emacs). MS Windows users expect things to work right out of the box. I struggled with the advices above but still had big difficulties. I am not quite sure about this, but as I remember it it still did not work when I finally found out the network UNC adress (\\server\printer) of the printer I wanted to use. (I am curious, I will try it again, since so many people seem to insist it does work if you use the UNC adress and I do not remember exactly now. Maybe it was some part of it that did not work.) But at that point I just gave it up, realizing most people just do not want to make that work. > Have you read the ps-print.el documentation? I did look at it and I am sure that it does a lot of things that can be useful for me if it just used the default printer. - Lennart