From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#819: 23.0.60; group and owner "Everyone" - what's that about? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: <002501c90a44$23eb0af0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <001201c909e8$001b46a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <001901c90a02$d0cfa010$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000001c90a12$abd26030$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <48B8951B.9030209@gnu.org> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220063270 20136 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 02:27:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:27:50 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Jason Rumney'" , <819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 04:28:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZGCc-0003nb-D8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:28:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51036 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGBd-00077Q-GF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGBa-00077J-EC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGBY-00076v-0Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51845 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGBX-00076s-Qi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:39065) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGBX-00015b-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7U2RT4B020616; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:27:29 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m7U2A4au014413; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:10:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 819 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 819-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B819.122006162511157 (code B ref 819); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 819) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Aug 2008 02:00:25 +0000 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com (agminet01.oracle.com [141.146.126.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7U20LJw010926 for <819@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:23 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m7U20EDb024802; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:00:15 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt706.oracle.com (acsmt706.oracle.com [141.146.40.84]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m7U20DoU010506; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:00:13 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/69.181.100.12) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <48B8951B.9030209@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AckKONoUe3PlKxs3QCOu75xtjdNIWwACwqug X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19896 Archived-At: > > I probably misspoke a bit. The `Everyone'...`Everyone' > owner and group appear > > only on `..', and only when `..' represents the top level: > c:\. And for Dired in > > c:\ itself there is no `.' entry, so I can't say it > contradicts what `..' showed > > one level down (`Everyone'...`Everyone'). > > > > The bug, as I see it, is that `..' is different (showing > > `Everyone'...`Everyone') _only_ for a directory just under > c:\ - for example, > > Dired in c:\foo\. Everywhere else, I see the same thing for > `..' that I see for > > every other file or directory (my user name and `None', in my case). > > So what seems to be happening is that the security descriptor for the > disk itself is different than the security descriptor for the > files and folders it contains, and Emacs is reporting that. Just so I can understand a little better, could you elaborate? I thought that Eli was saying that with FAT32 it should say Everyone...Everyone everywhere. Which is more or less (or differently?) secure, my disk or the files and folders? How is that determined/defined in the Windows UI? Thx.