From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: OP mail delayed? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01c8ca7b$b410fee0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213048650 13080 80.91.229.12 (9 Jun 2008 21:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:57:30 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Jason Rumney'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 09 23:58:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K5pNS-0006zp-9J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:58:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33217 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5pMf-0008Tu-7P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5pML-0008Se-Oo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5pMJ-0008Qj-Mb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34552 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5pMJ-0008Qa-I6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:33545) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5pMJ-0005LH-2x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m59LurSL021575; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:56:54 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m597WlW2022031; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:56:53 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3688928061213048601; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:56:41 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:56:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AcjKeaDwFaKx1t6mRFaDSrexGLXOAQAAYZjw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:54654 Archived-At: > > I seem to be getting the OP of a thread a day or two after > > the follow-ups. Anyone else seeing that? > > If you are receiving the list by mail, it is probably the spam filter > at your end delaying mail by unknown senders. I always get bounces > when following up to your messages (usually they are Cc'ed to the > list, so they probably get through to you that way), I think > oracle.com's spam filter is overly paranoid. Hm. Maybe. But: . Others are seeing the same thing. . This just started happening - it didn't happen before. . I don't see this in other GNU Emacs mailing lists. What is the difference between a message with RE coming from the list and a message without RE? Wouldn't they both be treated the same by a spam filter? Why would the latter (the OP) be delayed more than the former? This is not about messages sent directly to me from someone. It is about messages that come from this list.