From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:36:19 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01c88dee$b7d48430$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206391137 10555 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2008 20:38:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Alan Mackenzie' , 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'paul r'" , "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 21:39:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JdtRt-0004Wa-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:39:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtRH-0003rY-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtRB-0003nt-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtR6-0003d5-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtR6-0003cX-Df for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JdtR5-0000MI-U4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m2OKcK7E021038; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:38:20 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m2O9wFqq000399; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:38:19 -0600 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3623768281206390979; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:36:19 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:36:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AciN6SLA+NaagAc9SnqeDnZO5+hRrQABSpsg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93328 Archived-At: > Emacs is fully customizable, but only advanced users *really can* > customize. If that is true, then we need to improve the customization process. It is OK for some customizing to be only for advanced users, but it is not good for all customizing to be only for advanced users. Can you point out some specific customization problems for a beginner (in a new thread?) The first step to fixing them is to identify them.