From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01c90a1b$c4b4ae60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <87y72f603p.fsf@comm.utoronto.ca> <001201c90a19$aaf5b7a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <48B86486.4090605@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220044295 653 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 21:11:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Gilaras Drakeson' To: "'Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 23:12:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZBGe-0007rd-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBFg-0001Aj-3B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBFb-0001AO-73 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBFY-0001A6-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34586 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBFY-0001A2-LH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:51404) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZBFY-0008Ol-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:11:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m7TLBG9g005358; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:11:16 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt700.oracle.com (acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m7TLBEYH008539; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:11:15 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/69.181.100.12) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:11:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <48B86486.4090605@gmail.com> Thread-Index: AckKGyGMMgjOLDjaRtG/0Owgk4SCbAAACfsw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103212 Archived-At: > > For Emacs, we could do this: By default, `delete' deletes > > the file and `S-delete' sends it to the Recycle Bin, > > That would be good. > > > but with non-nil > > `delete-by-moving-to-trash' these would be reversed: > > `delete' would send to the Recycle Bin and `S-delete' would > > delete the file (a la Windows). > > I wonder if reversing like that is a good idea. Negation is > sometimes a very confusing operation for our brains. If you > have seen people struggling with logic expressions which they > try to match what they want you have probably seen how confused > they can be. (And I believe negation > is even more confusing when we are stressed.) We're talking about setting a preference, here. This is pretty much a one-time operation: You either want `delete' to send to the recycle bin or you want it to delete. Whichever you choose, `S-delete' does the other. Nothing complicated about this. No one will need to struggle with any logic expressions. ;-)