From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: ipa and ispell Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c9d4b0$92aaf5e0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> References: 87d4adc731.fsf@gmail.com <4A0BCEA5.6040107@gmx.at> <010301c9d4a3$e4580020$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <4A0C437E.7060302@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242318371 30982 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 16:26:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sean.sieger@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "'martin rudalics'" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 18:26:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4dkv-0002Fp-30 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 18:26:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dku-000686-CT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:26:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dkX-00067X-80 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dkS-00065b-RZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40691 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dkS-00065R-Ep for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:54028) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4dkS-0003dw-1w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4EGPnrd001178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 14 May 2009 16:25:50 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com (abhmt002.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4EGPMLM004600; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:25:22 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 14 May 2009 09:25:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A0C437E.7060302@gmx.at> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcnUrypAEu+fx+bFTryWVyeUj3PnbgAADrDA X-Source-IP: abhmt002.oracle.com [141.146.116.11] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010207.4A0C45F3.00E8:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:64438 Archived-At: > > We do? Fix what? Fix ispell? OK. Change Emacs to handle > > attempts to split the minibuffer window other than by > > raising an error? No - why?. > > Fix ispell.el which is part of Emacs Yes. > and, if needed, provide additional functionality for > finding a suitable window. Fix the code for Ispell, yes. Make it DTRT (e.g. "find a suitable window"), so that Emacs doesn't raise an error and users can get the Ispell info they need - yes. That doesn't imply any need to add some new, general functionality to Emacs. Finding a suitable window to display information is something we do all the time. > > I don't see it as _imperative_ ("we have to fix that") for > > Emacs to do something special if a program tries to split > > the minibuffer window. > > If a user tries to spell-check a word and is told that some > window can't be split, we have to fix that. Yes. Ispell needs to be fixed. > For example, by telling the user that words in the minibuffer > window can't be spell-checked. I'd prefer a fix which does > spell-check words in the minibuffer window and does not try > to split the minibuffer window, though. Yes, absolutely. None of that implies a need to change the general Emacs treatment of trying to split the minibuffer window, which is to just raise an error. We apparently agree that this is only about fixing Ispell. Sorry if I misunderstood you.