From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2949: 23.0.92; font-info incompatible across Emacs versions Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:43:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c9bacd$14ef5120$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87ws9rqeza.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 2949@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239473092 17402 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2009 18:04:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, 2949@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "'Miles Bader'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 11 20:06:10 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LshaQ-0005Xd-M2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:05:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LshZ2-0002tC-Bt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LshYc-0002lh-Gj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:03:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LshYX-0002kZ-3V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45613 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LshYW-0002kP-Lx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:03:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:44071) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LshYV-00073M-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:03:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BI3nfP004605; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:03:49 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3BHo560001102; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:50:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2949 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2949-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2949.123947183532015 (code B ref 2949); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2949) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Apr 2009 17:43:55 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com (acsinet11.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BHhqXp031993 for <2949@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:43:53 -0700 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n3BHiwnb008439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:45:00 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n3BHi7IS010269; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:44:09 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/98.210.250.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:43:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87ws9rqeza.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Thread-Index: Acm6ysPsJE7UDgcIQPSaElLPN7GgVgAAXQzg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.49E0D6CE.0029:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:03:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27093 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:24267 Archived-At: > > In Emacs 20, `font-info' returns an array like this: ... > > In Emacs 22 and later, it returns an array like this: ... > > This breaks any code that tries to use the result with > > different Emacs versions. > > So.... what exactly do you want to happen? > > The two formats look easy enough to distinguish. Since the change > occurred in 22, it's been widely released, so obviously 3rd-party code > simply has to be prepared to deal with it (if they care about 21 and > older versions), and there's little point in changing it back now. I guess nothing can be done. But I do wonder why CHARSET was dropped from both `font-info' and `describe-font'. There seems to be nothing about this in NEWS (e.g. for Emacs 22). Is the character set no longer meaningful? useful? appropriate? discoverable?