From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "jasonal" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Problems on the input side under Win32 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:46:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c7452f$15c797d0$0564bb81@huangq0e62a367> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C74535.CEC070D0" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170255395 27162 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2007 14:56:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Eli Zaretskii" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 31 15:56:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HCGsB-0007yZ-V7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:55:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HCGsB-0006e3-HT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HCE6Z-0006gD-G9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:58:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HCE6X-0006ei-Q8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:58:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HCE6X-0006eb-MO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HCE6X-0002zE-04 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HCE6V-00063Q-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:58:20 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so522900nfe for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:58:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:cc:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=MCeLUbrbIDwhFSYIaxZ0KHOYVWApKsDAB50I/brw/N+SuFqXw7bGLG+twqDAIhqdfPXkK+OkqS2PGC0ShTML/5LcPLMLDfck7bLftIzLZfgPO51OwC+9ERjwN1r2RB/0RCOeuc9GJPFlfghAap5YCxKVXlkBI1ps+a8G3U1UQaU= Original-Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr2134288nfi.1170244697888; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:58:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from huangq0e62a367 ( [129.187.100.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l38sm5847069nfc.2007.01.31.03.58.16; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:58:17 -0800 (PST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:55:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:15571 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C74535.CEC070D0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Eli, Thank you for your reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Zaretskii" To: "jasonal" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Problems on the input side under Win32 >> From: "jasonal" >> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:01:59 +0100 >> >> GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-01-01 on DTOP > > Thanks you for your report. > > In general, reports about Emacs 23 should go to emacs-devel@gnu.org or > to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org. Also, Emacs 23 is very early into its > development, so grave bugs should still be expected in that version. > I have tried GNU Emacs 22.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-01-01 on DTOP. There're some similar problems as well. >> 1. When I type Euro sign with german keyboard (press AltGr-E) >> under Win32, it is displayed as \200, which is #x80. The correct >> Euro sign should be U+20AC. > > What does Emacs say if you go to that \200 and press "C-u C-x ="? > (#x80 is the code of Euro in the Windows encoding.) > describe-char of that \200 (Emacs23) is: character: € (128, #o200, #x80) preferred charset: iso-8859-1 (Latin-1 (ISO/IEC 8859-1)) code point: 0x80 syntax: w which means: word category: l:Latin |:While filling, we can break a line at this character. buffer code: #xC2 #x80 file code: not encodable by coding system chinese-gbk-unix display: no font available In NTEmacs 22.0.92.1 when I press AltGr-E, it sais in minibuffer: \200 is undefined. >> 2. It doesn't work under win32 if I want to type C-@ with german >> keyboard (press Ctrl-AltGr-q) and other similar input related to >> a key combination of Ctrl-AltGr-. > > Try playing with the variable w32-recognize-altgr. > The variable w32-recognize-altgr is t. It behaves same in Emacs22. It's interesting, M-@ does work in Emacs. That is Alt-AltGr-q, or Left Alt - Right Alt - q. >> 3. When I type Umlauts (ü ö ä ß µ etc.) with german >> keyboard, they behave like a prefix command that is waiting for a >> following type. > > What keyboard do you use in Windows? what do you see in Control Panel > -> Regional and Language Options -> Languages -> Details? And what > version of Windows is that? > The keyboard is German (Germany) - German. And Windows XP SP2. I've tested in ntemacs 22. It is a little different. If I press ü, it also waits in minibuffer ü- . Then I press SPACE. It displays \221\374\240. C-u C-x = on it: character: ? (48672, #o137040, #xbe20) charset: chinese-gb2312 (GB2312 Chinese simplified: ISO-IR-58.) code point: #x7C #x20 syntax: w which means: word category: C:Chinese (Han) characters of 2-byte character sets c:Chinese |:While filling, we can break a line at this character. buffer code: #x91 #xFC #xA0 file code: #xEF #xBF #xBD (encoded by coding system mule-utf-8-dos) display: by this font (glyph code) -outline-Arial Unicode MS-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-*-gb2312*-* (#x9F31) >> 4. If there are two continued characters which are both larger >> than 0x80 (ü ö ä ß µ etc.), they can't be displayed >> correctly under win32. > > Please describe the details: what is displayed in this case? Please find the screenshot in the attachment. The word is 'größer'. If the cursor is moved over the ö or ß, it can be displayed correctly. Otherwise, the two letters look like a strange chinese character. The third one is 'Mit freundlichen Grüßen', the ü and ß can't be displayed. This is same on both ntemacs23 and ntemacs22. 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