From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:11:25 -0800 Message-ID: <000301c93edb$0ae21b40$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <005801c93ec3$d5ab54d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <56299.128.165.123.18.1225842965.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225843868 21050 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2008 00:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:11:08 +0000 (UTC) To: , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 05 01:12:11 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxW0E-00030m-Qh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:12:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48298 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxVz7-0003Ms-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxVz4-0003Mn-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxVz1-0003Mb-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35978 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxVz1-0003MY-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:51306) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxVz1-0007FT-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id mA50AmV2016631; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:10:48 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt702.oracle.com (acsmt702.oracle.com [141.146.40.80]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id mA50Al8u031449; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:10:47 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.83.246) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:10:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <56299.128.165.123.18.1225842965.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> Thread-Index: Ack+2RZQhiffVLEySjeqr8xA2hP3/gAAZwEA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105396 Archived-At: > As Stefan said, the name "Web Tour" seems to suggest a tour > of and not on the WWW, and the hyperlink nature of it is also > odd. Perhaps both of those concerns can be alleviated by > renaming it to something like "Feature Tour (Web)". Then > what it describes is made explicit, and it should no > longer be a surprise that it is a hyperlink. Agreed. Or it could also be just `Tour (Web)'. If it's a tour (on the Web) of Emacs, then it's clearly a tour of its features. That's what "taking the tour" is all about: seeing what it can do.