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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Andreas Schwab'" <schwab@suse.de>,
	"'Eric Hanchrow'" <offby1@blarg.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: testing for a remote file to include file on aWindows	mappeddrive
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:15:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000001c8a387$ea969a30$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jezlrn1vxr.fsf@sykes.suse.de>

> > _I_ sure wish it did.  I like using global-auto-revert-mode,
> > but that can make Emacs hang when it checks a remote file.
> > And since file-remote-p doesn't give the right answer ...
> 
> Is a file on a CDROM device that needs to spin up on every access
> file-remote-p?

We agree that we might need other test functions, such as Michael suggested.

But as long as the agreed-upon purpose of `file-remote-p' is to let you avoid an
access performance cost, that can be the place to incorporate such info.

IOW, either we add other test functions, as Michael suggested with
`file-mounted-p', and you then test with (or ...) to see if there is a possible
slowdown, or we put the tests into `file-remote-p' and we recognize that the
name is not accurate. Or we roll all the tests into some other function (as I
tried to do with `my-remote-file'), say, `slow-access-file-p'.

The expressed need is to know whether accessing a file with a given name might
be significantly slower than accessing a local file on an ordinary drive etc.

Some of those terms might be vague, but the general idea is clear: We want to
get a performance assessment from the file name (perhaps also locally checking
known mounts, mapped drives etc.) - without incurring a significant performance
penalty for the test itself. 

A boolean estimate is probably enough: possible performance hit vs probably
fast. How that is done, and whether it indicates that the file is remote or on a
slow local drive or whatever, I really don't care (but we might care, in some
contexts).

For some uses, some people might want more than a boolean - a time estimate, so
they can judge "fast enough" for some particular use. But for myself, now,
classifying the file names into two groups (probably fast, possibly slow) is
enough.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-25 18:47 testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-01-25 18:54 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 20:33   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Drew Adams
2008-01-25 22:18     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 23:37       ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26  2:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  7:30           ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26  9:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 11:29           ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-26 15:23             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-26 16:55             ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 19:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26 22:15               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-26 22:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 11:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27 17:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 18:22                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-27 19:04                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27  1:36                 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-27 20:46                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 18:28                   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-20 19:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 20:03                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 20:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-20 21:16                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 21:31                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-20 20:24                       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-20 21:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-20 22:20                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-20 21:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 22:20                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  0:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21  7:18                               ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  7:28                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-21  7:47                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-21 22:11                                       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22  3:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  4:43                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22  6:27                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 14:09                                               ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windowsmapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-22 15:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-21 17:08                                   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-21  7:46                                 ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  7:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  9:03                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  8:57                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  9:11                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  9:18                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  9:44                                         ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  9:59                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21 14:36                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 17:09                                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 17:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 18:52                                             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:21                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 22:39                                                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 14:33                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 15:13                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21 16:17                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 20:29                                         ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-22  2:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 19:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  2:46                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-22  3:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  5:46                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-22  6:50                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 15:17                                         ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-29  7:50                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-29 18:15                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-29 20:39                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30  3:16                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-30  4:26                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30  6:23                                                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-30  7:34                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30 13:57                                                         ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 15:33                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 15:47                                                             ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 15:57                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 16:12                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 18:31                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05 15:20                                             ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 19:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 15:40                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27 20:43                 ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Stefan Monnier
2008-01-29 15:46                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30  6:15                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-30  7:43                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 14:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 15:04                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 15:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 16:04                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 17:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 16:04                           ` David Kastrup
2008-01-30 17:52                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 19:50                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 21:33                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31  9:07                                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-01 19:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-03 13:36                                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-04 21:55                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 15:52                                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 16:34                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 20:58                                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 22:21                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 22:32                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 22:17                                               ` url-handler-file-remote-p (was: testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive) Michael Albinus
2008-02-06 14:44                                                 ` url-handler-file-remote-p Stefan Monnier
2008-02-06 20:37                                                   ` url-handler-file-remote-p Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 14:29                       ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 14:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31  1:05                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-31  1:56                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31 18:51                             ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-26 15:15           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-21  4:25         ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-04-21  7:58           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  8:15             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2008-04-21  8:48               ` testing for a remote file to include file on aWindows mappeddrive Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21 17:08                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 14:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 17:09                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 17:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 18:52                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  8:52   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-25 22:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 16:55   ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 17:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 17:57       ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 18:58         ` Eli Zaretskii

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