From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [GNU-Emacs] request: better subject lines Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 05:03:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <874lx5dhwd.fsf@pippiandcarlos.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1493607831 18550 195.159.176.226 (1 May 2017 03:03:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 03:03:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 01 05:03:47 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d51co-0004iT-Q7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 May 2017 05:03:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46631 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d51ct-00027R-3P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d51cL-00027J-AZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d51cG-0004nR-Cj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=46253 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d51cG-0004kh-6N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:03:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d51c5-00042V-VX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 May 2017 05:03:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 55 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:QbunfuxCfLVb+8zBpt2LZctMkkQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112911 Archived-At: Carlos Konstanski wrote: > If you're like me, you get a whole lot of > spam. You need to scan the subject lines in > your INBOX to decide what's spam and what's > ham. If you have to open an email to decide > because the subject line is inconclusive, > that's bad. Use Gmane to read mailing lists as newsgroups. That way, this isn't a mailing list anymore. At least in terms of the interface, it is a newsgroup, namely gmane.emacs.help ! Typically, I keep an eye on some 20 groups/lists. Some are there for software I don't use that often, but whenever I do, I want them there ready if I have some issues. Other groups/lists I follow more closely. It would be a royal pain if *all* of this traffic ended up in the same INBOX! Here is a screenshot that shows Gmane in Gnus and Emacs: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/figures/gnus/gnus-group.png > The subject lines for this mailing list need to > have a [thing] injected so that it's obvious > that it is email for this list. Note my example > in the subject line of this email. Please? Sorry, the subjects line approach won't help. You're relying on humans to act perfectly instead of solving this with technology at your end of the pipe. That won't ever work. Check out Gmane! If you use Gnus, you can also use another technique, called splitting mails. If you use Gnus, there is absolutely no reason not to use Gmane as well which is much better than splitting mails. However, I mention it because in other clients there might be something similar. It is like the poor man's Gnus and Gmane. It is up to you if you want to be rich or poor in this case, because the richness is also free och charge! As for spam, get a new e-mail account, then don't ever put it on a home page, and never submit it to any shade sites. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573