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* How to use rmail.el on windows
@ 2017-03-09 13:26 =?gb18030?B?1cW+/Lfl?=
  2017-03-09 14:45 ` Emanuel Berg
  2017-03-11  1:00 ` Robert Thorpe
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I use emacs 25.1 on windows 7, I want to use rmail to read mail in pop.qq.com¡£
   I set rmail-inbox-list: pop://hengaini2055:password@pop.qq.com:995¡£M-x rmail£¬I get the error info as follows:
   movemail: Error connecting to POP server: Could not determine POP server's address


   Thank you! Any reply is welcome.

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* Re: How to use rmail.el on windows
  2017-03-09 13:26 How to use rmail.el on windows =?gb18030?B?1cW+/Lfl?=
@ 2017-03-09 14:45 ` Emanuel Berg
  2017-03-09 15:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-03-11  1:00 ` Robert Thorpe
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-03-09 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

张军峰 wrote:

> I use emacs 25.1 on windows 7, I want to use
> rmail to read mail in pop.qq.com。I set
> rmail-inbox-list:
> pop://hengaini2055:password@pop.qq.com:995。M-x
> rmail,I get the error info as follows:
> movemail: Error connecting to POP server: Could
> not determine POP server's address
>
>    Thank you! Any reply is welcome.

To set up Rmail with POP is easy - probably you
will find a code snippet here [1] and just fill
in the details. (The details are the servers
stated when you got a paper from your ISP.)

However on that page, there is also this quote
by RMS:

    Rmail is the primary Emacs mail-reader.
    I don't know how many people currently use
    it, but I will ignore any suggestion to
    treat it as unimportant.

This quote isn't good. It is said in a context
of "who uses Emacs to do mail?" (pseudo-quote).
In this context, I agree to the spirit of the
quote, i.e. the capabilities to do so are
important and only complete morons would argue.
However the exact phrasing - "primary
mail-reader" - why is it "primary"? It isn't.
Gnus is also installed by default and it is
a hundred times more powerful than Rmail (more
powerful in terms of technology). So as any
advice is welcome, my is: don't use Rmail,
use Gnus.

[1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Rmail

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* Re: How to use rmail.el on windows
  2017-03-09 14:45 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-03-09 15:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-09 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> From: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 15:45:53 +0100
> 
> However on that page, there is also this quote
> by RMS:
> 
>     Rmail is the primary Emacs mail-reader.
>     I don't know how many people currently use
>     it, but I will ignore any suggestion to
>     treat it as unimportant.
> 
> This quote isn't good. It is said in a context
> of "who uses Emacs to do mail?" (pseudo-quote).
> In this context, I agree to the spirit of the
> quote, i.e. the capabilities to do so are
> important and only complete morons would argue.
> However the exact phrasing - "primary
> mail-reader" - why is it "primary"? It isn't.
> Gnus is also installed by default and it is
> a hundred times more powerful than Rmail (more
> powerful in terms of technology). So as any
> advice is welcome, my is: don't use Rmail,
> use Gnus.

You are entitled to your opinions, but mine is with RMS.  (And yes,
I'm a happy and veteran user of Rmail, both on MS-Windows and on other
systems.)



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* Re: How to use rmail.el on windows
  2017-03-09 13:26 How to use rmail.el on windows =?gb18030?B?1cW+/Lfl?=
  2017-03-09 14:45 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-03-11  1:00 ` Robert Thorpe
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Robert Thorpe @ 2017-03-11  1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 张军峰; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

"张军峰" <hengaini2055@qq.com> writes:
> I use emacs 25.1 on windows 7, I want to use rmail to read mail in pop.qq.com。
>    I set rmail-inbox-list: pop://hengaini2055:password@pop.qq.com:995。M-x rmail,I get the error info as follows:
>    movemail: Error connecting to POP server: Could not determine POP server's address

Can you show us the exact elisp?

You need something like:

(setq rmail-primary-inbox-list
   '("pop://hengaini2055:password@pop.qq.com:995"))

Notice the ' at the start because this is a list containing one entry.

Many email servers don't accept simple usernames anymore, the domain has
to be added onto them.  Here your username is just "hengaini2055". It
may be necessary to add a domain to that.  It is with my email
provider.  If you're already using an email program then you can find
out how it's written by looking in it's configuration.

If that doesn't work, ask again, there are other things to try.

BR,
Robert Thorpe



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