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From: goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 11:15:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ycpwMwrcUk-zXXK-tDyDa_q6fmTcaE6TOiLPuuUc4DmL6tFxJkpnNZAVn7JGjEtTlZdY5ZbJMYZM1nq-nBe7cXGlTB963IGA4DLGw54koYQ=@protonmail.com> (raw)
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------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, June 11th, 2022 at 10:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> > Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 10:20:39 +0000
> > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> >
> > > > For instance, how can I get the tab key to just make a tab and
> > > > pressing it again to make another tab. As I can do with spaces.
> > >
> > > You shouldn't need this, not at all. If you set the indentation
> > > levels and variables for the style of these files, typing TAB will
> > > insert as many TAB characters as needed to get to the correct column.
> > > For example, if the line should be indented 3 tab stops, typing TAB
> > > just once will insert all the 3 TABs in one go.
> > >
> > > That is what Emacs indentation commands are about: they insert the
> > > whitespace as necessary according to your settings, so that you never
> > > again should need to count TABs or insert them one by one.
> > >
> > > You should embrace this powerful feature instead of fighting against
> > > it. It does need some setup to adapt to a particular style of
> > > indentation, but that is one-time only, so really worth it.
> >
> > The point here is that they do not have a specific style, meaning the styles vary, but emacs imposes some specific style that one has to set up. And you cannot degress from it.
>
>
> Emacs doesn't impose any style. By "style" I meant how many columns
> should each construct be indented. In Emacs, you can set all the
> parameters of the style one by one via the menu I mentioned, and you
> can do that according to the style used by whoever wrote these files.
> Then you save your customizations, and Emacs will henceforth
> automatically indent according to the style you defined by your
> customizations.

Let me rephrase again.  Emacs imposes indentation rules by requiring said customisations.  These files have not been written by one person but a result of more than 35 years of work by an entire research department for a passive sonar system.  The question about how many columns should each construct be indented, has no answer.






  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-11 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 13:58 Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook goncholden via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-09 15:12 ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 15:30   ` goncholden
2022-06-09 15:46     ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 16:08       ` goncholden
2022-06-09 16:34         ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-10 23:17           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  0:05             ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 18:13     ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:15       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:16       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:24       ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-09 19:40         ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:54           ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-10  5:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  5:46               ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:08                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-10  6:11                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:31                   ` tomas
2022-06-10  6:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  7:42                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  7:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  8:31                       ` goncholden
2022-06-10 10:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 18:10                           ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:40                               ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:52                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:56                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:57                                           ` tomas
2022-06-11  8:26                                             ` goncholden
2022-06-11 15:35                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:17                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-11  8:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:57                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 10:20                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 11:15                                                   ` goncholden [this message]
2022-06-11 11:50                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 20:02                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  2:24                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  3:16                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:06                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  6:40                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:02                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:49                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:06                                                                     ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  8:35                                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:40                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:29                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:53                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:06                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:18                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:54                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:13                                                             ` Netiquette is way to go Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:25                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  4:53                                                                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:25                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:26                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:17                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-13  7:41                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:43                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  9:18                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13  9:29                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-06-13 10:39                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 11:48                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 13:17                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 21:05                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-14  4:43                                                                           ` tomas
2022-06-14 10:08                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:42                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  7:13                                                           ` Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:29                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  8:29                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:36                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:14                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:45                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  9:02                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:21                                                               ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:29                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-13  3:03                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  5:39                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:24                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  6:33                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13 15:17                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12 17:10                                                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 20:18                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 20:41                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 22:42                                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:17                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-13 11:55                                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2022-06-13 12:12                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:39                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:00                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:17                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:56                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-12  0:07                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  0:19                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-12  0:35                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  1:05                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11  4:58             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11 14:53               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-11 15:39                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 23:03   ` Emanuel Berg

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