From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inputting UTF8 in Emacs Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:22:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8734w278qe.fsf@gmx.net> <837clemfke.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1dukwcg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1248"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 18:23:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYOC-00006S-6p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:23:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYND-0001Jr-SR; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:22:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYNB-0001J0-RY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:22:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEYN9-0003AS-5s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:22:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1702747360; x=1703006560; bh=DlSuQ7Q5sNGY5zBLiNRzBKTBj+GzXabNEkWaZ5A4/X4=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=moD1//vpaDc39PGFgnLr0i1Yy6E1F8MjVLpfK9PwX/rtn5aXETXnkV0x4/M+F6A9+ BqhJ5g95pkGt+gBY3ZhIYgUE/Z3daiepVXH5X8KsNkYJFSIslP4V5avIuqkKn/HWwm KtO2vU8UEv5FIEwe+lyPMrNZwr7SAi3jw95paEoPf/6mQeRnEGOcTwRa4GM+QYzC8l pjxYvWo8l3eHYlU2KvW3kgwH1dmxP9q5GNFXdBPqFJ59k/6fhQK4Z1wVEDFnUELMKX YdEtSq43l/ekFxwLYzs1MyLRMZG84R6N9D+xJtcUxZx7FLcByW9v2WCqmlkUe1G2kS E/mIdkNJ4sF8Q== In-Reply-To: <83y1dukwcg.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.19; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4319.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145649 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, December 17th, 2023 at 3:20 AM, Eli Zaretskii wro= te: > > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:58:35 +0000 > > From: uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > >=20 > > > > Although I got it to work, can things be simplified further. For in= stance, > > > > having a command that moves from one character set to another, show= ing the > > > > same as is shown by the use of "TAB TAB". > > >=20 > > > This already exists: use M- and M- arrow keys. > >=20 > > `C-x 8 RET M-' takes a long time to load and display. >=20 >=20 > No, not `C-x 8 RET M-'. I meant this: >=20 >=20 > C-x 8 RET LOG TAB TAB M- >=20 > > All the UTF8 characters get displayed in a long list with M- > > and M- moving a character at a time. > >=20 > > My interest is in displaying a page (e.g. a table) at a time with just = the > > UTF8 characters of a particular set. And shifting one set at a time. > >=20 > > To have an idea, consider the case if `C-x 8 RET M-' shows the fi= rst > > character set (e.g. Arrows). Then pressing "M-" again shows the n= ext > > character set (e.g. Math Operators), and so on. Makes browsing the UTF8 > > characters much faster and you are moving by Character Set rather them = by > > Character Glyph. >=20 >=20 > This is not what "C-x 8 RET" is for. You want a command that shows > Unicode characters by Unicode blocks, and then allows inserting some > character. I'm sure someone has already written something like that, > so maybe search the various ELPAs. Eli. Could we have a list of Unicode Black Names, so one could do C-x 8 RET BLOCK-NAME TAB TAB M- In the last few years, there have been many users who would like to=20 easily insert UTF8 characters, even though this has not been very well received by some developers who have been in the field for a long time (e.g. regarding Emojis where some prefer text-based communication). For people in mathematics like myself, easily inserting UTF8 characters would be considered a valuable innovation.