From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Loops and scripting in eshell Date: 21 Oct 2003 11:05:36 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <86fzhuqome.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org> <867k2zk3be.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org> <87he234gq8.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066727827 31913 80.91.224.253 (21 Oct 2003 09:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 21 11:17:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABsdU-0005V8-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:17:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABsdC-00077k-66 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:16:46 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!news.mailgate.org!newsfeeder.edisontel.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!p3ee20be8.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p3ee20be8.dip.t-dialin.net (62.226.11.232) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066727136 29499065 62.226.11.232 (16 [198409]) X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:117475 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13406 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13406 Oliver Scholz writes: > Kai Grossjohann writes: > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > >> for f in ${ls -1} { echo $f; } > > > > Hm. The fact that the -1 is needed hints at some potential > > problem. In the shell, ls behaves differently. (The -1 is not > > needed there.) So maybe some other programs break when used in a > > similar way? Uh, ls does not "break". ls is an eshell builtin, and so behaves completely different. > > (I guess the difference has to do with isatty(3). No idea how > > difficult would it be for eshell to do this right.) Oh, nonsense. The difference is that we are not talking /bin/ls here. > > What do people think? [...] > > I don't know about the isatty issue. I don't know much about the > underlying lower operating system level. But I'd like to note, that > it seems to work in *some* directories, but not in others: > > [lisp] $ for f in ${ls} {echo $f} > 2cyr.txt draw.el iso646-de.el single-frame.el > > *much more output snipped* Well, it lists all the lines that "ls" spews out. If it worked as "intended", you'd get a single line per entry. without color attributes. But eshell ls does something different. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum