From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How can I do these in Emacs? Date: 19 Apr 2003 21:32:56 +0200 Organization: T-Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5l8yu6l2zu.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050780982 6390 80.91.224.249 (19 Apr 2003 19:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 19 21:36:21 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 196y8K-0001er-00 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 2003 21:36:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196y8E-0005DW-03 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2003 15:36:14 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1050780776 07 19868 cPV2Ec2ESTAGtt 030419 19:32:56 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-ID: EZC9IeZeQerf6oqTy2QZ-s9w+id6CIrwmB1G4bxV-0DclhrYACK20i X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112123 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8622 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8622 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > Hi! I'm new to Emacs. I'm used to use VIM. But I decided to enjoy > > the Emacs world. > > You might also want to try M-x viper-mode RET. It's supposed to be > pretty good. That's like enjoying the Far East cuisine by booking a ticket to Hong Kong and arranging for visiting all available MacDonalds restaurants during the stay. I'd recommend to _first_ emerge yourself fully into the Emacs world (using tutorials and the reference sheets), and when, after considerable consideration, you still find yourself throwing up regularly, _then_ you might try the local MadDonalds aka viper-mode and be reasonably sure that you don't miss out on much that you could digest. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum